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  • kapersky
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    #1

    why dont they stop in they prime?

    like the topic, why dont boxer like jcc,muhammed ali, holyfield etc stop in they prime. what drive them to continue even if they knew they are over as a boxer?, and they could get ko vs a bad boxer?.
  • zip
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    #2
    Pride and money.

    When you are the best in the world it's hard to just stop. And also they want as much money as they can get.

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      #3
      Originally posted by zip
      Pride and money.

      When you are the best in the world it's hard to just stop. And also they want as much money as they can get.
      i dont think they get much pride, when they got ko vs bad boxer. just look at them and you know. and i dont think holyfield or ali fighted for money. so i would agree to the first one its not easy to stop.

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      • marvelous_TG
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        It's the hart(never quit) they have that took them to the top, that's when thinks go bad they don't stop because of the hart. Becomming the best is never quitting even when things go bad, and that's why if they are past it they refuse to quit it's there pride and hart, what makes them big, but it's although the thing that leaves them braindamaged.

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        • masterdirector
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          its more than pride and money, its their job. Why does anyone do any work once they're a millionaire? They don't have to. They can afford anything so why keep doing what you got famous doing? Cause you like to do it, unless you're obligated. Or some guys I think really don't know what to do with themselves if they're not boxing.

          Apollo's little speech in to Rocky, prior to fighting Drago (duh, he died after fighting Drago) in Rocky 4 speaks volumes.

          "We are the warriors, Stallion. And without some-some damn war-well, then the warriors might as well be dead."

          Holyfield has been boxing since age 8. He definitely doesn't know what to do with himself. He also has this delusional belief that he can be champ again. Today's heavyweights only fuel his delusion, as it isn't impossible for Holyfield to beat a Lamon Brewster type.

          Holyfield would be more realistic to make his goal to get 40 wins rather than the heavyweight crown. He has won 2 of his last 9 bouts.

          Damn it Holyfield, why'd you ever have to give John Ruiz a rematch? He'd be long gone if Holyfield hadn't.

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          • kapersky
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            #6
            Originally posted by masterdirector
            its more than pride and money, its their job. Why does anyone do any work once they're a millionaire? They don't have to. They can afford anything so why keep doing what you got famous doing? Cause you like to do it, unless you're obligated. Or some guys I think really don't know what to do with themselves if they're not boxing.

            Apollo's little speech in to Rocky, prior to fighting Drago (duh, he died after fighting Drago) in Rocky 4 speaks volumes.

            "We are the warriors, Stallion. And without some-some damn war-well, then the warriors might as well be dead."

            Holyfield has been boxing since age 8. He definitely doesn't know what to do with himself. He also has this delusional belief that he can be champ again. Today's heavyweights only fuel his delusion, as it isn't impossible for Holyfield to beat a Lamon Brewster type.

            Holyfield would be more realistic to make his goal to get 40 wins rather than the heavyweight crown. He has won 2 of his last 9 bouts.

            Damn it Holyfield, why'd you ever have to give John Ruiz a rematch? He'd be long gone if Holyfield hadn't.
            good point there, its like mike tyson after lewis fight. he said i have nothing to do and dont know where to go, ffs he got 8mil$ for that fight he could do a lot. give me 1mil$ i will show you .
            what a fighter they are specially ali, surely its the heart to took them to the top and took them down.

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              A fighter is the last one to know that the fight is actually gone in them. The people surrounding these fighters can see it, the people that watch these fighters compete can see it, but it seems that the fighter, even when they can even see it, is the last to admit it. For most of these fighters school was something that did not suit them, working a 9 to 5 suited them non the better. So they took their fists and forged themselves a living in the toughest sport in the world.. For many it is all that know and all that they love.

              Talk to any fighter near the end of their career, and they will tell you that they know that they have one good fight left in them. That is what they believe, that the past glory and past heroic battles still linger deep within them, somewhere, just waiting to be found and called upon to again show the greatness. But time and multiple wars in the ring have taken this ability and greatness from them.

              Some fighters come back and fight angain without even the need for the money. More make the ill fated comeback in desperate need of the dollar, but both are usually left laying on the canvas, wondering what happened to the dream, the greatness, their youth.

              Being a fighter is nothing that the common person could completely understand. The pride of the war, the honor of the achievments, the addulation of the fans. When a fighter leaves the ring something also leaves from with in them. It has been a passion since their earliy youth, a dream destined to come true. But in the world of boxing, talent is not the only thing that is needed to get to the top. Many fighters have had their talent stolen by time just waiting for that big one, the bout to put them over the top and aline them with the title.

              To a fighter time is something that does exist, but for them it is not something that affects them the same as it would a common person on the street, or so they believe. For them time is just what they need until they reach that glory, whether it be the first time or just one last peak from the summit.

              The people handling fighters are the ones that should look out for the well being of that fighter, that person. Many fighters have been stolen from and manipulated into again fighting. These handlers to make more money off of the fighter. Whether the fighter wins or loses is not important to these people. For when this fighter is no longer able to generate any revenue, they will have another already waiting in line to possibly fill that void.

              So what is a fighter to do. Many have no skills beyond the ring and many are left in less than a desireable state after their careers are finished. With nothing to fill the gap that had been found in their hearts since leaving the ring, what can he do. I know what I can do, they say. I can fight again... if I can get in the gym and get into some shape... one last fight might bring me back. If he was to watch himself work the vision would not lie. Unfortunately the people around them often will. That person will make a couple dollars from the fight and send that fighter home from the arena, often beaten and bruised having been knocked out in their last ditched effort for glory.

              The fighter will then stay at home and the cycle and mind patterns will all start again. Not knowing what to do they will say... I know, I'll fight again... if I can get to the gym and get in shape.... one last fight might bring me......I know that one last great fight is in me. And they continue to believe and coninue to search for what is gone................. Rockin'
              Last edited by Rockin'; 03-24-2005, 07:15 AM.

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              • marvelous_TG
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                #8
                great post rockin, are you a pro boxer?

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                • Rockin'
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                  Im done fighting now, but yes I was. I judge and referee now. And thankyou for the compliment on my post.......... Rockin'

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                  • marvelous_TG
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                    Originally posted by Rockin1
                    Im done fighting now, but yes I was. I judge and referee now. And thankyou for the compliment on my post.......... Rockin'
                    cool man, and did you make it to the top? if not why not? can you tell us something about your fights?

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