How great Wilder could’ve been if he reached his full potential?

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  • WillieWild114
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    How great Wilder could’ve been if he reached his full potential?

    If Wilder had a great trainer listened, worked on his combinations and had good defence how great he could’ve been ?
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    This guy had all the attributes to be a heavyweight Tommy Hearns

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    • benplace
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      #3
      Should just say "If Wilder listened how great could he have been?"

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      • Fighter Club
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        #4
        It's all shoulda coulda at this point but yea, a well schooled disciplined heavy with that explosive power and athletic ability, combined with skills, discipline, and strategy would have made huge achievements in the game.

        I remember before his fights with Fury I would tell my fight loving friends that were all on his jock that his lack of defense skills, reliance on power, atrocious footwork, and not being a student of the fight game, will be his undoing.

        For starting late in the sport he did OK, could have done more.

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        • BKM-
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          I'd say he did reach his full potential. I don't think his body had a natural 'chemistry' that could have made him a great boxer even if he started early. The legs and mind-muscle connection just wasn't there, he was too lanky for the right movement.

          What he did get out of his body is exactly what made him successful. Charging in fast with explosive right hands while picking the right moments, that was his talent. That, powered by a ruthless killer instinct and heart is what made him what he was.

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          • Broccoli
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            #6
            Wilder reached his final form years ago, it wasn’t good enough for Fury though!

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            • Theshotyoudontsee
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              He never beat anyone any good. Old man Ortiz had him out on his feet and would have KO'd him if the ref hadn't literally given Wilder an extra minute for no reason and saved him.

              I give Wilder credit for trying in the Fury fights but Fury isn't some all time great, he is just a good boxer for his height. That trilogy was fun and made me like Wilder more than before for not quitting.

              But Wilder fought awful comp his entire career and he got obliterated when he faced an actually good boxer. For his skill level and being a twig he got way more out of his abilities than he would have had he fought good comp coming up. He was the definition of a protected hypejob for most of his career.

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                If Amir Khan had a diamond hard chin? If Paulie Mailinaggi had punching power? We can do this all day forever.

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                • The D3vil
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by WillieWild114
                  If Wilder had a great trainer listened, worked on his combinations and had good defence how great he could’ve been ?
                  All he had to do was listen to Mark Breland.

                  He was improving, but after his Fury II meltdown, he refused to take any accountability & fired the one guy who knew what he was doing.

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                  • Nash out
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                    This is Nash out from the BoxingScene Hall of Fame. You've all heard of me. Prime Wilder ended after Fury 1, so he had all those wins, knockouts, and a draw with prime Fury, who is the best ever, so prime Wilder is the second best HW of all time. Also the only man to beat Prime Ortiz and X2. Prime Ortiz is the 4th best of all time behind Usyk. Nash out - His Majesty

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