Why Pacquiao beat Hatton so easily, why he'll beat Cotto, & why he'll lose to Floyd!

[Pullcounter]

Floyd called out Casamyor and Frietas but they priced themselves out cos they didn't want any of him. Floyd was a beast and I don't blame most of those fighters for not fighting him, but you can't lay all the blame at his feet.

He said he'd love to fight Tszyu but he ended up tryin to chase Oscar too after saying how hard it was for him to make fights at the lower weights cos people were duckin him.

I don't deny that there were complications to negotiating those fights, but floyd's resume is a who's who of good fights that were never made that should've been made.

[joelab75]

Judah is overrated. he was never a pound for pound king or even close to being one. Manny will destroy your prime Judah. Manny can beat your Floyd. too bad Floyd would duck Manny and fight someone else. he already said he is not going to wait the winner of Manny vs Cotto.

[gqjohnb]

Thats true right there. Love how Roach dissects Pacmans opponents and trains Pacman to expose at will.

Roach being in Oscars corner was a huge advantage for Team Pac, but still experts and people said Pac had no chance.

I was one of the ignorant people who thought pac had no chance. I hadn't followed pac's career before then and did not know he was big for his division. I also could not predict how oscar's training and conditioning team would screw up so badly with the weight.

I agree with the analysis though. I've already drawn the conclusion that cotto is the easiest and most similar to what pac has faced in the past style out of the three big fighters in the WW division, Mayweather and Mosley being the other two. I still give cotto a puncher's chance though and when you have a guy who's as aggressive as pac a puncher's chance is very valid.

I hadn't thought about how much more satisfying with bets and just period a mayweather match with pac would be if he dominated cotto so kudos to that lol. It's going to be a lot of fun talking **** and everybody looking at me mad if that fight happens.

[MIP4P1]

wtf????

jmm went on to KO casamayor (who had never been KOed before) and he KOed Diaz (who also had never been KOed before).

mab imho beat jmm.

morales loss to raheem because of the clash of styles and zahir's size.

all 3 are arguably ATG mexican boxers, and definitely international HOFers.

Pac got them late in their career, but pac has been fighting since 16 years old as well. he wasn't no spring chicken.

here is truth: floyd is the shrewdest match maker in boxing! he avoided freitas and casamayor and campbell at 130 lbs. he wanted to fight that midget Hamed but Larry shut him down. At 135 the only notable win there for floyd was castillo. then at 140, he avoided all the big punchers: tszyu, cotto, and harris. at 147, his resume is cherrypicked and he avoids mosley, cotto again, pwill, margo and clottey.

I'm not saying floyd wouldn't beat them all, IMHO he would, but he has to beat them in the ring to get credit. he can't just beat them in your imagination and on paper.

JMM went on to... Yes, but I said JMM looked like crap against Barrera which is why the rematch finally happened after 4 years. Roach was waiting for Pacquiao's kryptonite to finally get old, it didn't happen! Just like after the rematch they never took on JMM for a 3rd fight, when EVERYONE wanted to see it. However, they rematched the Shot morales for a 3rd time despite being clearly washed up.

3 ATG's greats, Yes. 1 Loss against an washed up Morales, a draw against a smaller Marquez (cough, robbery), and a win over Barrera. Good, but not Great!

Learn how to read and comprehend!

[MIP4P1]

Judah is overrated. he was never a pound for pound king or even close to being one. Manny will destroy your prime Judah. Manny can beat your Floyd. too bad Floyd would duck Manny and fight someone else. he already said he is not going to wait the winner of Manny vs Cotto.

I know you don't believe that garbage, LOL.

Pacquiao, a guy who lost to a washed up Morales, got outboxed by the smaller Marquez, and KO'd twice by bums, doesn't even belong in the same ring as Mayweather. Pacquiao is gonna get CLOWNED!

[shadeyfizzle]

...and has none of the slickness, counter-punching ability, or single shot hand-speed of a prime Judah.

Floyd's reach advantage and defensive wizardy will keep Pacquiao confused and never within striking distance. He'll desperately need the single shot hand speed to surprise Floyd and he doesn't have it.

a 144lb Marquez had nowhere near the single shot handspeed of a prime Hatton and a complete ineptitude at offense and he was able to land repeated straight rights down the pipe repeatedly with little to no effect because of Floyd's size advantage.

Pacquiao will land, he WILL rock Mayweather....and then we'll see what he's truly made of.

[Zerwas1]

The straight left will never land, and the right hook will be taken away as well. Pacquiao has nothing he can do against Mayweather. Pacquiao's glass body will be tagged all night under those right hooks.



Above is the reason why Roach predicted Pacquiao would KO Hatton inside 3 rounds. The Irish southpaw using right hooks, Magee, knocked Hatton down in the first round and if it wasn't for the hometown ref, Hatton would have been KO'd in round 2. Hatton, a converted southpaw, is at a stylicatic disadvantage against right hooks and straight lefts. It's no wonder he was exposed by Magee and Collazo by those very two same weapons, and KO'd by Mayweather with a left hook.

Roach chose Cotto because he was stunned by Judah's straight left and was stunned by Corley's right hook, and stunned BADLY. He's damaged goods after Margarito and he feeds right into Pac's two best weapons... The straight left and right hook. Cotto has no D for those two punches. He's at a disadvantage stylistically due to him being a converted southpaw just like Oscar and Hatton, which is not enough to overcome his slight size advantage. 145 is not his normal fighting weight the past couple years anyway.

He'll perform "better" than the weight drained corpse of Oscar, but his career is almost over and this is the easiest fight styistically for Pacquiao at the WW level.

Pacquiao is exposed by the straight right hand. He lost to Morales and arguably lost to Marquez twice. Not to mention he had been hurt and knocked down by right hands in his career. This is why they chose Cotto over Mosley or Mayweather because their weapon is Pac's poison. Pacquiao vs Cotto should be called "Cotto's right hand vs Pacquiao's left." The outcome is obvious!

Roger Mayweather was asked about Cotto. His reply was, "He's the same damn fighter as Oscar, they both have no right hand".

Roach's comment on Oscar was, "Beristain won't be able to improve his right hand, he can tie his right hand behind his back, it's useless!"

This is matchmaking at it's finest!

I just thought, there is an urgent need of another *******, that makes the thread even bigger by quoting like a dickhead.

[Pullcounter]

JMM went on to... Yes, but I said JMM looked like crap against Barrera which is why the rematch finally happened after 4 years. Roach was waiting for Pacquiao's kryptonite to finally get old, it didn't happen! Just like after the rematch they never took on JMM for a 3rd fight, when EVERYONE wanted to see it. However, they rematched the Shot morales for a 3rd time despite being clearly washed up.

3 ATG's greats, Yes. 1 Loss against an washed up Morales, a draw against a smaller Marquez (cough, robbery), and a win over Barrera. Good, but not Great!

Learn how to read and comprehend!

1) JMM/Pac II happened because jmm finally came to his senses and agreed to take the smaller purse

2) how morales was washed up in the first fight? he had another close fight against mab.

3) pac beat jmm 2x. in the first fight the judge admitted a scoring error that would've gave pac the win. in the 2nd fight the knockdown made the difference.

4) he destroyed mab at 126 when mab was the ring and lineal champ

learn how to read and comprehend!!!

[Pullcounter]

I know you don't believe that garbage, LOL.

Pacquiao, a guy who lost to a washed up Morales, got outboxed by the smaller Marquez, and KO'd twice by bums, doesn't even belong in the same ring as Mayweather. Pacquiao is gonna get CLOWNED!

bwhahahahaah!!!! now that's what I call revisionist history.

I think pac would lose to floyd, but because of styles and because floyd is bigger, not because of any of this bull**** that is coming out of your mouth.

[The MODERATOR]

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