I UNDERSTAND why people think Sugar Ray was the GOAT

[TheProudLunatic]

I DON'T believe Mosley was the one who stalled the fight.

You're why personal beliefs mean nothing

[hugh grant]

Pac vs Cotto lite
Pac vs DEAD La Hoya
Pac vs Shotarito
Pac vs Broner
Pac vs Mosley
Pac vs Lucas
Pac vs Hatton

All at their worse

All these guys are 7 divisions naturally bigger than pac and all younger? Pac shouldn't even be fighting them.

[TheProudLunatic]

All these guys are 7 divisions naturally bigger than pac and all younger? Pac shouldn't even be fighting them.

What were Pacs weight in those fights

I'll wait

[hugh grant]

What were Pacs weight in those fights

I'll wait

I mean broner, lucas, hatton were all considered dangerous at one point and if you had a win over them that's a good win to Pad out youre resume. So just cos they lost they're not a good win? I'm sure Danny Garcia and Viktor pistol are proud of their wins over Lucas Pac had to come back from being koed to face them too, it works both ways Pac faced adversity too, lucas has 36kos more than floyd ever had, and broner could hit too.

[djtmal]

Shane Mosley did not officially call out Floyd Mayweather

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Yes he did it was during one of Floyd's fights. Mosley was commentating.

They were both lightweights.

Shortly thereafter ring mag put both on the cover to hype it.

Shane wasn't over the hill enough at that point

[Coverdale]

How did a thread about Ray Robinson become "muh Pac and Floyd" again?

[SouthpawRight]

I don't want to turn this into another Pacquiao vs. Mayweather discussion (this thread is about SRR), however, given Mayweather's track record of only fighting top opposition after they've suffered multiple losses e.g. Pacquiao, Cotto, Marquez, DLH, Mosley etc., I DON'T believe Mosley was the one who stalled the fight.

Bro Floyd and manny have 5 shared opps with Floyd fighting 3/5 first

so they’re either both too tactical matchmaking or both willing to take on most comers

How did a thread about Ray Robinson become "muh Pac and Floyd" again?

because of the recent greats they’re the only two close to Sugar Robinson in achievements

Mythical Mayweather is top 10 all time

Legendary manny is top 15 all time

TBud is somewhere between Floyd and manny in ability but has only max 2 hof opps which includes ONE all time great

similar stories with Naoya and Oleksandr

[djtmal]

Floyd always got excuse to not fight the people best qualified to best him. So why floyd not fight thurman, bradley, brook, khan, spence, bud, etc etc guys in his own division?

Floyd was a walking excuse

He ducked a hot welterweight division for 2 years, those guys beat up each other and Floyd excuse was his hands was hurtin

[The D3vil]

sugar ray robinson lost 19 times...floyd didnt lose 19 rounds his entire career! not sure he lost any but a couple debatable ones i guess

LOL, I know you're joking, but I do have to state for any youngns out there that

Robinson started his career at 125-1 with the 1 being Jake Lamotta, who he fought at 160lbs, in spite of being 147lbs during the fight.

Spray_resistantold school fighters who didn't lift weights at all were tiny. Sugar Robinson fought at middleweight and only had a 36.5" chest, 15.5" neck, 11.5" fists, and a 29" waist and 20" thighs as a blubbery 40 year old man.

I'd be extremely undersized at middleweight but have similar dimensions doing only casual calisthenics for 15 mins a day

Small Welters Floyd & manny have bigger dimensions than Middleweight King Sugar Robinson. lifting weights for bulk changed the game

From religious use of neck brace weights Floyd has a huge 16.5" neck on his small 5 ft 8 ectomorph frame. Big neck contributed to his iron chin hero

Buff Guy BBC Adonis Joshua the GigaTyrone Of Boxing are included for an idea of how big the SUPER HEAVYWEIGHTS are. He has an 18" neck. Iron Chin Hero Mike Tyson neck monstrosity was rumored to be 20"

Literally none of that has anything to do with winning fights in boxing,

If bodybuilding made you great, Anthony Joshua & Frank Bruno would be GOATs

[SouthpawRight]

LOL, I know you're joking, but I do have to state for any youngns out there that

Robinson started his career at 125-1 with the 1 being Jake Lamotta, who he fought at 160lbs, in spite of being 147lbs during the fight.



Literally none of that has anything to do with winning fights in boxing,

If bodybuilding made you great, Anthony Joshua & Frank Bruno would be GOATs

yet the moderns lift and became bigger anyways

there must be a functional strength benefit from hitting the weights