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  • Oregonian
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    #31
    Originally posted by LAchargers373

    See that’s why you are beyond delusional lol. You put Bootsy on the same level of Canelo. It’s just incredibly delusional. You think cause people made concessions for Canelo who fought every name in the book except benevidez they would make the same for a guy who is almost 30 and never beat ..let alone got in the fight with a world class fighter? Keep smoking whatever it is you’re smoking you weirdo lol
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    This is the ONE time you’ve made sense. But you then proceed to your usual about Boots being almost 30. You know who else is 30 and has NEVER won a tile in his 11 year pro career? Come on! You know who it is LOL


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    • LAchargers373
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      #32
      Originally posted by kiaba360

      I think we all know this match-up shouldn't need Turki. DLH enjoys being a thorn in Hearn's side and getting one over on him, and this is just the latest story in their relationship. We're being conditioned into perceiving this as a massive fight, but it's a good match-up and that's all. That's why Team Ortiz continues to mention Spence as an option: a relatively easy match-up against a faded name whom DLH believes would enhance Ortiz's marquee value. DLH prefers Ortiz vs. Spence or Thurman, and I think he's waiting to see if Thurman can upset Fundora...so then he can request the WBC to make Ortiz/Thurman. That interim belt needs to be cashed in this year.

      Ennis should focus on Baraou/Zayas. He'll risk some inactivity doing so, but it'll put him into position to become 2-division titlist. If he beats the winner, then he can unify with Kelly/Murtazaliev.
      Nah. Ennis is the WBA interim title holder. Ortiz is the WBC interim. If they don’t fight each other I’d like to see them unify their interims with the full holders and then they can unify the WBA and WBC. Zayas is gonna wash baraou. Fundora vs Ortiz and bakram vs Bootsy then the winners unify. And xayas will be waiting for the winner of that. I’ll tell you rn Bootsy ain’t the last man standing after those fights

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        #33
        Originally posted by Oregonian
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        This is the ONE time you’ve made sense. But you then proceed to your usual about Boots being almost 30. You know who else is 30 and has NEVER won a tile in his 11 year pro career? Come on! You know who it is LOL

        I always make sense you are the one dying on your shield in every thread on the Bootsy train arguing with anyone who speaks a modicum of common sense lol

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        • Bronx2245
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          #34
          Originally posted by kiaba360

          I think we all know this match-up shouldn't need Turki. DLH enjoys being a thorn in Hearn's side and getting one over on him, and this is just the latest story in their relationship. We're being conditioned into perceiving this as a massive fight, but it's a good match-up and that's all. That's why Team Ortiz continues to mention Spence as an option: a relatively easy match-up against a faded name whom DLH believes would enhance Ortiz's marquee value. DLH prefers Ortiz vs. Spence or Thurman, and I think he's waiting to see if Thurman can upset Fundora...so then he can request the WBC to make Ortiz/Thurman. That interim belt needs to be cashed in this year.

          Ennis should focus on Baraou/Zayas. He'll risk some inactivity doing so, but it'll put him into position to become 2-division titlist. If he beats the winner, then he can unify with Kelly/Murtazaliev.
          That's my fear, the inactivity! I'd rather him accept the 60-40, than to sit around and wait until the summer! Oscar is a b*tch, and we all know it, but he's playing with fire, because Vergil and his manager know it too!

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            #35
            Originally posted by Bronx2245
            That's my fear, the inactivity! I'd rather him accept the 60-40, than to sit around and wait until the summer! Oscar is a b*tch, and we all know it, but he's playing with fire, because Vergil and his manager know it too!
            If Ennis vs. Baraou/Zayas happens in June, it will be approximately 7 months inactivity...which isn't out of the ordinary. One favorable outcome: Ennis/Zayas in NYC on 6/13. If Ennis doesn't get Ortiz, then he should wait for his title shot. After what he did to Lima, Ennis cannot take any tune-up level opponent. Although I don't think guys like Adams/Lucero/Katzourakis would be horrible opposition, the boxing audience will not tolerate them right now. It's either Ortiz or title shot.






            Last edited by kiaba360; 01-15-2026, 07:57 AM.

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            • Curtis2
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              #36
              Originally posted by Gary Coleman

              Oh boy. Wait until you see the sheer difference in skill and power, not to mention speed - that is, if Team Ortiz doesn't go hiding behind a purse split or "other opportunities."

              Oscar knows...
              Oh, you're the same guy that believed Bud was avoiding Spence?? If Ortiz & Boot's happens, fight outcome will be very similar to the Spence beating took with Ortiz dominating Boots.
              C'mon, do you really think Boot's skill, power, speed will be as effective the same vs Ortiz as it has with Boot's history of opponents? I would look like Derrick Henry running with a football vs a team of 5th graders. Kinda like Boot's skill, power, speed look vs numerous Karen's.

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              • Gary Coleman
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                #37
                Originally posted by Curtis2

                Oh, you're the same guy that believed Bud was avoiding Spence?? If Ortiz & Boot's happens, fight outcome will be very similar to the Spence beating took with Ortiz dominating Boots.
                C'mon, do you really think Boot's skill, power, speed will be as effective the same vs Ortiz as it has with Boot's history of opponents? I would look like Derrick Henry running with a football vs a team of 5th graders. Kinda like Boot's skill, power, speed look vs numerous Karen's.
                I'll pay you $1,000 if you can find where I said Bud was avoiding Spence.

                Madrimov pasted Vergil. Bohachuk was touching him up. Boots is going to destroy him.

                Watch. Oscar knows.

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                • Oregonian
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by 11Combos
                  They are puzzled why Saudi Arabia financier Turki Alalshikh is not stepping in to provide the funds to make the appealing Ortiz-Ennis fight happen while instead backing less-action fighters including Shakur Stevenson and Devin Haney........

                  Sheik has "Jungle Fever" thats why.... he thinks supporting boring runners like Haney & Shakur make money! He may be rich but he's also an idiot & casual when it comes to understanding Boxing. They may be popular in the U.S. but ignored Globally... bad investment
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                  Let’s unpack three things you wrote;

                  “Jungle Fever”: A racist trope which defines what kind of a person you are.

                  ”… he’s also an idiot & a casual”: Turki has spent over $400 million in boxing and over a billion dollars in other global sports like soccer, golf and Formula One. And yet, you, a virtual cog from the internet underbelly calls him an idiot and a casual. This is wild!

                  bad investment”: Do you think Saudi Arabia is looking to profit from the over $1.5 billion they’ve invested in sports? Ronaldo ALONE is making $230 million a year at Al Nasser. The team’s annual salary pay out is close to $400 million. That’s just ONE team and Saudi League is not even in the top 10 in the world. They just happen to have lots of oil money to splash on extravagant things.

                  So, boxing is not an “investment” for Turki or for the Saudis. It is literally Fudge You money.
                  None of these huge boxing events that have happened in Saudi Arabia have made a single dime in profit. None at all.

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                  • Oregonian
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Gary Coleman

                    I'll pay you $1,000 if you can find where I said Bud was avoiding Spence.

                    Madrimov pasted Vergil. Bohachuk was touching him up. Boots is going to destroy him.

                    Watch. Oscar knows.
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                    You are wasting time arguing with these guys. There is another clown here who believes Ortiz to be the second coming of Jèsüs himself. Watch how they all disappear when Boots destroys their one-trick pony idol.
                    Or how they’ll shift goalposts and start saying wacky things like “let’s see if Boots will unify the 154 Ibs division” or they’ll accuse him of using PEDS.

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                    • Oregonian
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Curtis2

                      Oh, you're the same guy that believed Bud was avoiding Spence?? If Ortiz & Boot's happens, fight outcome will be very similar to the Spence beating took with Ortiz dominating Boots.
                      C'mon, do you really think Boot's skill, power, speed will be as effective the same vs Ortiz as it has with Boot's history of opponents? I would look like Derrick Henry running with a football vs a team of 5th graders. Kinda like Boot's skill, power, speed look vs numerous Karen's.
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                      Bohachuk got robbed. That’s a start right there.

                      More important, when BOOTS vs Ortiz does happen and Ortiz gets beat up, please show up AND give Boots his flowers without any IF’s or BUT’s.
                      We’ll do the same IF Ortiz prevails.

                      No need for a protracted debate that’ll go nowhere.

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