For those who think Cotto is going to beat Pacquiao

[MANGLER]

Mangler you know you my homie, but ince you have turn toa porr mans version of pullcounter with your claims that Cotto only wins because he is bigger. Well explain to me what Pacquiao does or have better than Cotto besides speed?

Pac is quicker by both hand and foot
throws more combos
better head movement
better body rhythm
higher workrate
better endurance
better at leadin wit power shots
fights better under pressure
not at WW, but p4p got a better chin

[Ch@mpBox@PR]

Pac is quicker by both hand and foot
throws more combos
better head movement
better body rhythm
higher workrate
better endurance
better at leadin wit power shots
fights better under pressure
not at WW, but p4p got a better chin

Throws more combos? Since when? manny doesnt throw more combos, he is a 1-1-2 fighter.

better head movement? Ill give you that!

Better body rithym? How? Cotto is never of balance and Manny always is.

Higher workrate? yes

better endurance? Probably

better at leading with power shots? Well manny most of the time leads with his straight left, so yeah.

Fights better under pressure? hell now. Manny doesnt even throw when push back.

Chin? How many times have Cotto being KD or much less KO?


And how about, better balance, Counterpunching, defense, Jab, Body Punching, Cutting off the ring, fighting backwards, hooking?

Manny maybe higher accomplishments and resume wise, but Cotto is the better skilled of the 2!!

[Bushidō]

Throws more combos? Since when? manny doent throw more combos, he is a 1-1-2 fighter.

better head movement? Ill give you that!

Better body rithym? How? Cotto is nhever of balance and Manny always is.

Higger workrate? yes

better endurance? Probably

better at leading with power shots? Well manny most of the time leads with his straight left, so yeah.

Fights better under pressure? hell now. manny doesnt even throw when push back.

Chin? How many times have Cotto being KD or much less KO?


And how about, better balance, Counterpunching, defense, Jab, Body Punching, Cutting off the ring, fighting backwards, hooking?

Manny maybe higher accomplishments and resume wise, but Cotto is the better skilled of the 2!!

I agree with basically everything you just said.

[Ch@mpBox@PR]

I agree with basically everything you just said.

The man in your avi laid the blue print on how to beat Manny, you just have to be strong enough, wich Cotto clearly is!!

Jab,,jab, jab push him back and jab some more!!

[MANGLER]

Throws more combos? Since when? manny doent throw more combos, he is a 1-1-2 fighter.

better head movement? Ill give you that!

Better body rithym? How? Cotto is nhever of balance and Manny always is.

Higger workrate? yes

better endurance? Probably

better at leading with power shots? Well manny most of the time leads with his straight left, so yeah.

Fights better under pressure? hell now. manny doesnt even throw when push back.

Chin? How many times have Cotto being KD or much less KO?


And how about, better balance, Counterpunching, defense, Jab, Body Punching, Cutting off the ring, fighting backwards, hooking?

Manny maybe higher accomplishments and resume wise, but Cotto is the better skilled of the 2!!

Pac lets go more flurries than Cotto does. He don't have to have his man hurt to let his hands go.

By body rhythm I meant in terms of usin torso movement for defense. Beyond just blockin or movin his head, he ducks, weaves, slips. Not sayin Cotto don't, Pac just does it better.

Pac uses offense as defense. When he's in trouble, he won't move backwards, he'll come out swingin. When I say fightin under pressure, I don't mean anticipatin shots so he can counter, cuz he don't ever do that. I just mean sayin **** it and lettin it go.

Again, I say p4p chin, not at WW. In his fights, Pac been hurt less than Cotto, unless you countin his early KO losses, which I ain't cuz he was a kid. Pac been hurt by JMM, that's it. Cotto been stung by Abdullaev, SSM, and to the body by CQ once. Cotto been hurt by Corley, Torres, Marg, Clottey, Zab.

I agree Cotto better
balance
countering
jab
body work
fightin off back foot

Cotto ain't got better D, I already explained that. Pac never been in wit a mover that required him to cut off the ring, so I won't make a call on that. And the way their styles clash, Pac got the edge as far as **** he can do if he can take Cotto's punch, which I don't think he can to either the body or head.

[Ch@mpBox@PR]

Pac lets go more flurries than Cotto does. He don't have to have his man hurt to let his hands go.

By body rhythm I meant in terms of usin torso movement for defense. Beyond just blockin or movin his head, he ducks, weaves, slips. Not sayin Cotto don't, Pac just does it better.

Pac uses offense as defense. When he's in trouble, he won't move backwards, he'll come out swingin. When I say fightin under pressure, I don't mean anticipatin shots so he can counter, cuz he don't ever do that. I just mean sayin **** it and lettin it go.

Again, I say p4p chin, not at WW. In his fights, Pac been hurt less than Cotto, unless you countin his early KO losses, which I ain't cuz he was a kid. Pac been hurt by JMM, that's it. Cotto been stung by Abdullaev, SSM, and to the body by CQ once. Cotto been hurt by Corley, Torres, Marg, Clottey, Zab.

I agree Cotto better
balance
countering
jab
body work
fightin off back foot

Cotto ain't got better D, I already explained that. Pac never been in wit a mover that required him to cut off the ring, so I won't make a call on that. And the way their styles clash, Pac got the edge as far as **** he can do if he can take Cotto's punch, which I don't think he can to either the body or head.

Pacquiao dont led his hands go unless he have a mummy in front. And when he does he swings wild as hell.

Oh I see!!!!!

That doesnt mean he is better fighter underpressure or more effective. Its just that you happend to like what he does. And again, when he is pressure and pushed back he dont even throw.

Cotto was never hurt by Mosely, Judah Abdullaev nor Clottey. Stunned? yes, hurt? no. Only guys who have hurt Cotto are Corley(Temple shot) and Torres who wreacked Cottto

The rest is just opinon and you have yours and I have mind.

So if you count them, Cotto is the better skilled of the 2 and cant bat Manny in more than 1 way than just for being bigger.

Case Close, thank You very much!!

[alexpz]

The punches from DLH a 135 pounder that night would took his shots with ease. DLH was drained so no snap or speed in his punches he was dead. Pac hasn't felt true WW power. WW that can box too. I'm going with Cotto.

Pacquiao dont led his hands go unless he have a mummy in front. And when he does he swings wild as hell.

Oh I see!!!!!

That doesnt mean he is better fighter underpressure or more effective. Its just that you happend to like what he does. And again, when he is pressure and pushed back he dont even throw.

Cotto was never hurt by Mosely, Judah Abdullaev nor Clottey. Stunned? yes, hurt? no. Only guys who have hurt Cotto are Corley(Temple shot) and Torres who wreacked Cottto

The rest is just opinon and you have yours and I have mind.

So if you count them, Cotto is the better skilled of the 2 and cant bat Manny in more than 1 way than just for being bigger.

Case Close, thank You very much!!

I still think that Judah and Mosley did hurt cotto.

[Syf]

Pac is not mentally beaten...Cotto, to a certain extent, I believe is.

Cotto has all the tools to stop Pac.. The thunderous body shots...the ring smarts... physical toughness, and a veteran's experience.

But its mentality and heart that will be put to the test in this matchup, and its my belief that Pac has the edge on both. He on some "die in the ring" type ****...

I will give Cotto FULL credit if he stops the force of nature known as Manny Pacquiao.. but I just don't think he has it in him anymore. That fire that Pac still has, is flickering in Cotto. That's what I see.

And that's why I choose Pac to win.

[Ch@mpBox@PR]

I still think that Judah and Mosley did hurt cotto.

Judah really stunned him, Mosley didnt came close to hurt Cotto.

[alexpz]

Judah really stunned him, Mosley didnt came close to hurt Cotto.

How do you differentiate between stun and hurt?