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  • TheProudLunatic
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    #11
    Nelo
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    Is this all it takes ?!?!?

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    • TheProudLunatic
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      #12
      Who is GOAT Fantasy Fighter -
      Aaron Pryor
      Or
      Bud

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      • The D3vil
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        #13
        Great breakdown on Bud's place in history

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        • Liondw
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          #14
          An all-time great indeed, Crawford. A pity there won't ever be a fight with Ennis. That would've been exciting.

          Crawford would have been made slight favourite, maybe slightly higher ring IQ, but not sure. In any event, it would not have been as easy as the Canelo fight.

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          • Cypocryphy
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            #15
            Crawford should be ranked right up there next to Joe Calzaghe.

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            • Oregonian
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              #16
              Originally posted by Bronx2245
              "Floyd Mayweather is the Jay-Z of Boxing." I like it! Like Jay-Z said, "I'm not a businessman, I'm a business...man!" Facts! Floyd did something LeBron can never do, because LeBron is an employee of the Los Angeles Lakers, but he doesn't own the Lakers. Closest thing to Floyd is Canelo. Closest thing to Jay-Z is 50 Cents!

              In my heart, I know Bud is just as good as Floyd and Manny, but his resume is lacking in comparison. In my heart, I fear I'll be saying the same thing about Boots! Undefeated is not enough!
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              While this statement (Floyd did something LeBron can never do, because LeBron is an employee of the LA Lakers) is kinda true, it can be argued with the right context.
              Basketball is a team sport and EVERY player will be employed unless they buy a team and play on that team. An almost impossible thing to do.

              That aside, financially, LeBron will end up way much better than Floyd because he has tens of millions coming his way for the rest of his life. His endorsements are massive and dwarfs any of Floyd’s endorsement deals (Hublot and that’s it).

              Floyd can go bankrupt and my prediction is he will. LeBron is NEVER going to go bankrupt. His deals are based on his brand name with percentage of profits kicking in annually so unless Nike or all the others go belly up, LeBron’s finances are ironclad in guaranteed income.

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                #17
                So basically Crawford doesn’t have the resume of an all-time great, but he passes the eye test?

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Oregonian
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                  While this statement (Floyd did something LeBron can never do, because LeBron is an employee of the LA Lakers) is kinda true, it can be argued with the right context.
                  Basketball is a team sport and EVERY player will be employed unless they buy a team and play on that team. An almost impossible thing to do.

                  That aside, financially, LeBron will end up way much better than Floyd because he has tens of millions coming his way for the rest of his life. His endorsements are massive and dwarfs any of Floyd’s endorsement deals (Hublot and that’s it).

                  Floyd can go bankrupt and my prediction is he will. LeBron is NEVER going to go bankrupt. His deals are based on his brand name with percentage of profits kicking in annually so unless Nike or all the others go belly up, LeBron’s finances are ironclad in guaranteed income.
                  No doubt, Floyd might "F" up the bag, but look at how he got the bag! He purchased the entire venue! Every hot dog sold, every beverage, every t-shirt, Floyd got a piece of it! that's LEGENDARY! Probably will never be done again!

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                  "Love him or hate him, he's the bank vault," says Leonard Ellerbe, Mayweather's adviser and CEO of Mayweather Promotions. "Love him or hate him, he's going to make the bank drop." He is a one-man conglomerate, with a net worth -- not counting cars, ***elry and houses -- estimated at $100 million. Unlike manager- and promoter-dependent fighters, Mayweather dictates his share of fight revenue and his opponent's. He controls the gate receipts by setting ticket prices at the MGM Grand; for his May 5 light middleweight title fight against Miguel Cotto, they range from $200 to $1,500. He negotiates directly with HBO to set the price for the pay-per-view broadcast. HBO is advertising the fight for a "suggested" retail price of $59.95. (The Victor Ortiz fight, for which Mayweather earned $40 million, generated 1.25 million buys despite being pricey, at $59.95 for standard definition and $69.95 in hi-def.)

                  Mayweather resurrected the idea of renting movie theaters to show his fights live, and the Cotto fight is being aired in 440 theaters, most of which will charge about $20 per person. He helped HBO develop the idea for its 24/7 franchise, a documentary-style preview show that debuted for his 2007 fight with De La Hoya. The show is now a huge hit and standard fare for major fights.

                  "He's transcended the sport to become the franchise," Ellerbe says. "The business model is 100 percent his. When you're telling a guy, 'I'm making this, you're making this, we're doing it this way' -- well, when all that is in your hands, you're the one in control."

                  In ESPN The Magazine, Tim Keown writes that Floyd Mayweather Jr. does the hiring, selling and boxing for every one of his fights. That's why he's money.


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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Bronx2245
                    No doubt, Floyd might "F" up the bag, but look at how he got the bag! He purchased the entire venue! Every hot dog sold, every beverage, every t-shirt, Floyd got a piece of it! that's LEGENDARY! Probably will never be done again!

                    "Everything Is On Me"
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                    Tim Keown
                    May 1, 2012

                    "Love him or hate him, he's the bank vault," says Leonard Ellerbe, Mayweather's adviser and CEO of Mayweather Promotions. "Love him or hate him, he's going to make the bank drop." He is a one-man conglomerate, with a net worth -- not counting cars, ***elry and houses -- estimated at $100 million. Unlike manager- and promoter-dependent fighters, Mayweather dictates his share of fight revenue and his opponent's. He controls the gate receipts by setting ticket prices at the MGM Grand; for his May 5 light middleweight title fight against Miguel Cotto, they range from $200 to $1,500. He negotiates directly with HBO to set the price for the pay-per-view broadcast. HBO is advertising the fight for a "suggested" retail price of $59.95. (The Victor Ortiz fight, for which Mayweather earned $40 million, generated 1.25 million buys despite being pricey, at $59.95 for standard definition and $69.95 in hi-def.)

                    Mayweather resurrected the idea of renting movie theaters to show his fights live, and the Cotto fight is being aired in 440 theaters, most of which will charge about $20 per person. He helped HBO develop the idea for its 24/7 franchise, a documentary-style preview show that debuted for his 2007 fight with De La Hoya. The show is now a huge hit and standard fare for major fights.

                    "He's transcended the sport to become the franchise," Ellerbe says. "The business model is 100 percent his. When you're telling a guy, 'I'm making this, you're making this, we're doing it this way' -- well, when all that is in your hands, you're the one in control."

                    In ESPN The Magazine, Tim Keown writes that Floyd Mayweather Jr. does the hiring, selling and boxing for every one of his fights. That's why he's money.

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                    You are 100% correct. Nobody will ever match Floyd on that scale. EVER. I just hope he doesn't go broke. It would be such a shame. Can you imagine Floyd greeting visitors at the MGM like how Joe Louis did for a payday?

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