Avenues to Surpass Tsar Terence For Top Soviet Bivol, Naruto Naoya, & Cossack Oleksandr

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  • SouthpawRight
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    Avenues to Surpass Tsar Terence For Top Soviet Bivol, Naruto Naoya, & Cossack Oleksandr

    The ABRUPT departure of King Terence leaves the door open for Top Soviet Bivol, Naoya, or Usyk to surpass him in all time rankings. Currently at slot *27 for me

    Top wins:
    1. TBud 9-3'd ATG Saul who was lower bound p4p
    2. TBud TKO'd Undefeated Errol who was the best at 147 and upper bound p4p
    3. TBud UD Prime Postol
    4. TBud KO'd Undefeated Gamboa

    Avenues to surpass Tsar Terence

    Top Soviet Bivol mops Artur again, Fat Dave, and Parker's Cousin Buff Guy Jai. The latter 2 would then need to become HOF

    Top wins as it stands:
    1. Top Soviet Bivol 8-4'd Undefeated ATG Buff Guy Artur who was upper bound p4p and the best at 175. Arguably beat Artur every time
    2. Top Soviet Bivol 10-2'd Reigning P4P King ATG Saul
    3. Top Soviet Bivol 9-3'd Undefeated Fat Gilbert who was a good contender at 175 and has gone onto be a good cruiser
    4. Top Soviet Bivol Wide UD Joe Smith Jr

    Naruto Naoya beat Junto and Jesse. They go onto HOF and at least one ATG

    Top wins as it stands:
    1. Naruto Naoya FOLDED the Undefeated Slick Stephen
    2. Naruto Naoya UD in a war against HOF Nonito
    3. Naruto Naoya KO'd Omar who was a good junior bantam
    4. Naruto Naoya KO'd Jamie who was a good bantam

    Cossack Oleksandr beat Biblical Moses in the second half of 2027 when he goes from green to pre-prime. Pray that Biblical Moses stays focused to become a long reigning heavyweight champ ATG. He would only be 23 then so there's time for this scenario to happen

    Top wins as it stands:
    1. Cossack Oleksandr SD HOF Flabby Fury who was lower bound p4p
    2. Cossack Oleksandr UD HOF GigaTyrone Buff Guy BBC Josh who was lower bound p4p
    3. Cossack Oleksandr MD Mairis
    4. Cossack Oleksandr MOPPED Murat


    Concluding thoughts time is on Naruto Naoya's side. He's the youngest of them.

    Cossack Oleksandr has the simplest path. Mop some limited heavies between now and beating Biblical Moses

    Top Soviet Bivol has the hardest road ahead of him. We don't know how he'll perform after back surgery then his first move up in weight to cruiser 25 pound jump


    All Time Rankings
    1. Sugar Robinson If You Know You Know
    2. Harry 5 ft 8 beat up big men at heavyweight
    3. Henry SIMULTANEOUSLY held the 126 135 147 titles so effectively a dwarf beating up bigger men
    4. Sam midget who beat up big men at heavyweight
    5. Ezzard mopped the super ducked Burley, high tier ATG Archie, beat Joe Louis, gave Rocky hell, and beat a buncha HOF contenders
    6. Willie featherweight monarch
    7. Muhammad
    8. Roberto
    9. Sugar Leonard beat 4 ALL TIME GREATS in highly competitive bouts
    10. Floyd MOPPED 5 ALL TIME GREATS. Guards the gates of top 10 all time alongside Sugar Leonard
    11. Joe
    12. Benny Leonard
    13. Pernell
    14. manny
    15. Jimmy Britain's Greatest Boxer
    16. Archie
    17. Mickey
    18. Carlos
    19. Marvin
    20. Barney
    21. Tony
    22. Julio Cesar
    23. Rocky
    24. Larry
    25. Gene
    26. Jack
    27. *TBud
    Last edited by SouthpawRight; 12-17-2025, 07:37 PM.
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    Q: But SPR why does Top Soviet Bivol and Naruto Naoya need to do so much to pull ahead of TBud?

    A: Because the circumstances under which TBud mopped Saul makes it one of the best wins ever

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      I think 126 will be Inoue's ceiling, and maybe he tries to become Undisputed there too. He'll have to get through Picasso and Nakatani first. TC's advantage is that he faced someone who had already done all the work (Canelo), meanwhile Inoue would have to be the one to unify 126 because they aren't fighting each other.




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        #4
        Originally posted by kiaba360
        I think 126 will be Inoue's ceiling, and maybe he tries to become Undisputed there too. He'll have to get through Picasso and Nakatani first. TC's advantage is that he faced someone who had already done all the work (Canelo), meanwhile Inoue would have to be the one to unify 126 because they aren't fighting each other.
        yes TBud has many edges

        in addition he’s among a select few in an elite exclusive circle of H2H beasts

        all time rankings 80% achievements 20% H2H ability

        TBud consistency, adjustments, versatility, and physical gifts makes him a H2H beast alongside Floyd Sugar Robinson Prime Muhammad Sugar Leonard

        This guy’s power still carried up after a 2 weight jump. Saul who has a legendary 9/10 chin legs wanted to fold over from that counter left at the end of round 12. Ridiculous. golovkin caught Saul with a picture perfect cross and didn’t hurt him that bad

        Naoya is another do it all boxer but has defensive holes. I have reason to believe he isn’t as durable as TBud

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          #5
          Originally posted by SouthpawRight
          yes TBud has many edges

          in addition he’s among a select few in an elite exclusive circle of H2H beasts

          all time rankings 80% achievements 20% H2H ability

          TBud consistency, adjustments, versatility, and physical gifts makes him a H2H beast alongside Floyd Sugar Robinson Prime Muhammad Sugar Leonard

          This guy’s power still carried up after a 2 weight jump. Saul who has a legendary 9/10 chin legs wanted to fold over from that counter left at the end of round 12. Ridiculous. golovkin caught Saul with a picture perfect cross and didn’t hurt him that bad

          Naoya is another do it all boxer but has defensive holes. I have reason to believe he isn’t as durable as TBud
          It's not too surprising to hear Canelo got stunned at some point....because punch resistance doesn't stay the same. GGG 1 was 17 fights ago for Canelo.

          TC also has a longer than average reach, which is something Inoue doesn't have. Inoue is more likely to get touched as he moves up because the opponents will get taller/longer. Inoue vs. Espinoza would be very interesting due to the size difference.


          Last edited by kiaba360; 12-17-2025, 06:27 PM.

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            Originally posted by kiaba360

            It's not too surprising to hear Canelo got stunned at some point....because punch resistance doesn't stay the same. GGG 1 was 17 fights ago for Canelo.

            TC also has a longer than average reach, which is something Inoue doesn't have. Inoue is more likely to get touched as he moves up because the opponents will get taller/longer. Inoue vs. Espinoza would be very interesting due to the size difference.

            Naruto Naoya vs Tree Rafael would be Naoya's breakout moment to casuals

            Can the midget beat up the giant

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              Top Boxers Rankings Among THIS ERA's Greats
              1. TBud
              2. Top Soviet Bivol
              3. Ninja Naruto Naoya
              4. Cossack Oleksandr
              5. Cartel Chief Saul
              6. Buff Guy Artur

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