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  • PRINCEKOOL
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    #11
    Originally posted by boxingitis

    I didn't watch the first one, nor a I am I watching this fight. Rather watch Divino Espinoza that night. I rather watch Amateur boxing than watch Conor vs Eubank. They are both Mediocre and ok Brit level. Action is great, but Skill and Action is much better. Their skill level is not Elite level. The only ones that Care about this Match Up are Brits.
    You keep mentioning that they are British fighters, and solid level domestic fighters 'in this modern era of boxing? If you are a British fighter, and just so happen to be one of the best fighters in the country in your divisions. Automatically, you are most likely going to be at a good level beyond Great Britain. And at a higher standard than American boxing in most divisions'.

    Note: The standard of British boxing in many weight divisions is higher than American boxing 'Conor Benn has not even won anything at a domestic level, but he has beaten already a few solid level domestic fighters from America. And Chris Eubank Junior is in the latter stages of his career. I still don't think you could find many American domestic level fighters that could beat him'.

    To conclude: Chris Eubank Junior is actually beyond domestic level, and has been for many years 'he is only one or two fights away from fighting for a World title at 160 pounds. But I think it would be wise for him to move up into the 168 pound divisions, and fight there because? I think he is really struggling to make the 160 pound weight limit in optimal condition at times. During his last few fights at Middle Weight? His conditioning has either been hit or miss, due to effort it takes from him to hit all of the weight limits and rehydration clauses mandated in the fights'.

    Jermaine Franklin could potentially be the best American Heavyweight currently right now 'even above Deontay Wilder on present day form. He is fighting a rookie British fighter next in Moses Itauma, and is most likely going to be lasered out'.

    This shows that American boxing, when you compare domestic level vs domestic level with the UK 'British boxing is overall in many weight divisions, at a higher level' etc.
    Last edited by PRINCEKOOL; 11-13-2025, 01:11 PM.

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      #12
      Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL

      You keep mentioning that they are British fighters, and solid level domestic fighters 'in this modern era of boxing? If you are a British fighter, and just so happen to be one of the best fighters in the country in your divisions. Automatically, you are most likely going to be at a good level beyond Great Britain. And at a higher standard than American boxing in most divisions'.

      Note: The standard of British boxing in many weight divisions is higher than American boxing 'Conor Benn has not even won anything at a domestic level, but he has beaten already a few solid level domestic fighters from America. And Chris Eubank Junior is in the latter stages of his career. I still don't think you could find many American domestic level fighters that could beat him'.

      To conclude: Chris Eubank Junior is actually beyond domestic level, and has been for many years 'he is only one or two fights away from fighting for a World title at 160 pounds. But I think it would be wise for him to move up into the 168 pound divisions, and fight there because? I think he is really struggling to make the 160 pound weight limit in optimal condition at times. During his last few fights at Middle Weight? His conditioning has either been hit or miss, due to effort it takes from him to hit all of the weight limits and rehydration clauses mandated in the fights'.

      Jermaine Franklin could potentially be the best American Heavyweight currently right now 'even above Deontay Wilder on present day form. He is fighting a rookie British fighter next in Moses Itauma, and is most likely going to be lasered out'.

      This shows that American boxing, when you compare domestic level vs domestic level with the UK 'British boxing is overall in many weight divisions, at a higher level' etc.
      Boxing is one of the top Sports in England. Many athletes in America prefer Football, Basketball, Baseball, and maybe MMA. So ofcourse England "should" have better talent as their main focus is soccer and Boxing, but they don't.

      America has
      Crawford
      Shakur
      Ennis
      Benavidez
      Ortiz
      Teo Lopez

      All these guys a probably the best in their divisions

      What does England have?
      Last edited by boxingitis; 11-13-2025, 01:51 PM.

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        #13
        Originally posted by boxingitis

        Boxing is one of the top Sports in England. Many athletes in America prefer Football, Basketball, Baseball, and maybe MMA. So ofcourse England "should" have better talent as their main focus is soccer and Boxing, but they don't.
        are u out of your mind? horse racing is more popular than boxing & neither would be in the top 5 sports i would say for sure

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          #14
          Originally posted by Smash

          are u out of your mind? horse racing is more popular than boxing & neither would be in the top 5 sports i would say for sure
          In the UK?

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            #15
            Originally posted by boxingitis

            Boxing is one of the top Sports in England. Many athletes in America prefer Football, Basketball, Baseball, and maybe MMA. So ofcourse England "should" have better talent as their main focus is soccer and Boxing, but they don't.

            America has
            Crawford
            Shakur
            Ennis
            Benavidez
            Ortiz
            Teo Lopez

            All these guys a probably the best in their divisions

            What does England have?
            Boxing is also a top sports in America. Stop making excuses. Great Britain has a population of just under 70 million, America has a population of 340 million people.

            Boxing is a specific skill, which takes many years to develop and progress within 'the notion that all of those NFL, Basketball and Baseball Players would all suddenly become great boxers, just because they are American is complete and utter nonsense'.

            Note: If Andre Agassi was not a tennis player, then he would not suddenly just become a great boxer. If Lebron James or Stephen Curry, where not basketball players 'then they would not suddenly just become great boxers. Because? They are American'.

            Fighting is a specific skill, and there can be great athletes 'who may not actually excel at fighting. And combat sports'.

            The NFL really when you think about it, does not really have a high correlation with combat sports 'for one? They are wearing helmets, and body protection. In the sport of Rugby which is a popular sport in the UK and throughout mainland Europe, the athletes wear way less protection than NFL players. The game is more brutal in my opinion'.

            To conclude: You keep using the term British domestic fighter, as some sort of put down 'that is why I am calling you out on this. And making sure you understand? That it is not a put down. Because if you are a British professional boxer, and just so happen to be one of the best fighters in the country. The high likely-hood is that you are going to be better than most Domestic American boxers'.

            Who is the American heavyweight champion right now? Who is the American Middle or Super Middle Weight Champion? We can go through all the weight divisions, and match British national champion's vs American National champions'.

            I would back British boxers to win 80 to 90% of all the fights 'seriously, that is how much higher the medium standard of British boxing is compared to American boxing.

            America has population of 340 million, a varied population 'it is no surprised that you still have great individual boxers. But the overall medium standard of American boxing at domestic level, has dropped dramatically since the turn of the new century. Those are just the facts'.

            This does not mean that America is not a great sporting nation 'because the Olympics really, is not only the pinnacle for individual athletes in many sports. It is also the litmus test and best gauge to see which nation is overall the best power house at sports. American is the number 1 sporting nation at the Olympics historically'.

            But when it comes to professional boxing, once upon a time American used to be number 1 both on domestic and world stage 'but now? They are not. It is not particular clear in my opinion which nation is number 1, but I would say that Great Britain and mainland Europe have a much higher medium standard of boxing than America' etc.
            Last edited by PRINCEKOOL; 11-14-2025, 12:28 PM.

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              #16
              Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL

              Boxing is also a top sports in America. Stop making excuses. Great Britain has a population of just under 70 million, America has a population of 340 million people.

              Boxing is a specific skill, which takes many years to develop and progress within 'the notion that all of those NFL, Basketball and Baseball Players would all suddenly become great boxers, just because they are American is complete and utter nonsense'.

              Note: If Andre Agassi was not a tennis player, then he would not suddenly just become a great boxer. If Lebron James or Stephen Curry, where not basketball players 'then they would not suddenly just become great boxers. Because? They are American'.

              Fighting is a specific skill, and there can be great athletes 'who may not actually excel at fighting. And combat sports'.

              The NFL really when you think about it, does not really have a high correlation with combat sports 'for one? They are wearing helmets, and body protection. In the sport of Rugby which is a popular sport in the UK and throughout mainland Europe, the athletes wear way less protection than NFL players. The game is more brutal in my opinion'.

              To conclude: You keep using the term British domestic fighter, as some sort of put down 'that is why I am calling you out on this. And making sure you understand? That it is not a put down. Because if you are a British professional boxer, and just so happen to be one of the best fighters in the country. The high likely-hood is that you are going to be better than most Domestic American boxers'.

              Who is the American heavyweight champion right now? Who is the American Middle or Super Middle Weight Champion? We can go through all the weight divisions, and match British national champion's vs American National champions'.

              I would back British boxers to win 80 to 90% of all the fights 'seriously, that is how much higher the medium standard of British boxing is compared to American boxing.

              America has population of 340 million, a varied population 'it is no surprised that you still have great individual boxers. But the overall medium standard of American boxing at domestic level, has dropped dramatically since the turn of the new century. Those are just the facts'.

              This does not mean that America is not a great sporting nation 'because the Olympics really, is not only the pinnacle for individual athletes in many sports. It is also the litmus test and best gauge to see which nation is overall the best power house at sports. American is the number 1 sporting nation at the Olympics historically'.

              But when it comes to professional boxing, once upon a time American used to be number 1 both on domestic and world stage 'but now? They are not. It is not particular clear in my opinion which nation is number 1, but I would say that Great Britain and mainland Europe have a much higher medium standard of boxing than America' etc.
              Dude Ameica still have the best Boxers, just go to Boxrec and search the top 20 Boxers in the World over half are American. Stop your delusion. No other nation even has 3.

              https://boxrec.com/en/ratings

              If other athletes "focus" their time and effort to boxing we would have even more boxing talent, but again many of them "focus" their time to American Football, Basketball, Baseball.
              Last edited by boxingitis; 11-16-2025, 02:18 PM.

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