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  • TheProudLunatic
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    #51
    Originally posted by MulaKO

    So now , when it’s comforting for you , we’ll take compubox stats
    Ok got it
    What metric do you use ?
    Eye test ?
    Emotional biases ?

    I will agree that compubox is flawed
    not as flawed as....HUMAN JUDGES, doe

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      #52
      Originally posted by MulaKO


      And yes you infatuated with Benny
      But how does it go , before hand all Canelo fans used to say that Benny had a small fan base , he wasn’t known besides his *twelve fans
      Now it’s the opposite
      Talk about moving goalposts
      And brother any which way you wanna see it , Canelo lost that fight
      Maybe not a robbery per se but call it for what it is
      Same can be said that you are infatuated with Nelo
      *(Twelve would be a very high guesstimate, TBH)
      No one knows Benny
      No one is mentioning him as some people's champ
      No one is willing to anoint Nelo p4p king if he had Benny's resume

      And how am I moving goalposts ?
      What a tired cliche

      +5% has made many a Nelo hater weep over the Lara outcome
      That 117-111 score. doe
      Would it have been better if it were 115-113 Nelo ?

      It's not as if he was the only judge to score it for Nelo.

      Unlike CJ Ross, scoring Nelo vs May a draw


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        #53
        Originally posted by eco1
        Canelo Fans before Bivol's fight:
        1st Bivol, then Beterbiev and then Usyk! Easy work!

        After reality hits them and now the number 1 excuse:

        Canelo is too small for 175.

        GTFOH (bold)
        I used to say the only way Nelo could get the respect he deserves was to beat Usyk.
        If nothing else, Nelo fought in more div than Usyk.
        Has a deeper resume than Usyk

        And let's put that last bit to the test, shall we ?!?!?

        Biv 6'
        Beter 6'
        Berlanga 6'1"
        Plant 6'1"
        Benny 6'2"
        Usyk 6'3"

        Some said GGG was a small MW at 5'10"
        Even Bud was taller at 5'8"

        Nelo 5'7"

        So, um, yeah.

        Helpful hint, you should get rid of that sig !!!!!


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        • MulaKO
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          #54
          Originally posted by TheProudLunatic

          What metric do you use ?
          Eye test ?
          Emotional biases ?

          I will agree that compubox is flawed
          not as flawed as....HUMAN JUDGES, doe
          Got it , so when it’s convenient for you
          You do know that threads like this come back to bite you in the ass , right ?
          Cause I’m pretty sure that if I go search , a boxing aficionado like yourself , has sh/t on compubox at least once either for someone using that garbage to claim a victory or to disclaim one but this garbage site doesn’t pay me so no worries

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            #55
            Originally posted by TheProudLunatic

            Same can be said that you are infatuated with Nelo
            *(Twelve would be a very high guesstimate, TBH)
            No one knows Benny
            No one is mentioning him as some people's champ
            No one is willing to anoint Nelo p4p king if he had Benny's resume

            And how am I moving goalposts ?
            What a tired cliche

            +5% has made many a Nelo hater weep over the Lara outcome
            That 117-111 score. doe
            Would it have been better if it were 115-113 Nelo ?

            It's not as if he was the only judge to score it for Nelo.

            Unlike CJ Ross, scoring Nelo vs May a draw

            Once you start talking the way you are you make it very easy to prove my point
            Not gonna go through the twelve step program with you
            and politely say

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              #56
              I think this is a wise move, because I suspect? That Canelo Alvarez is now dead at the weight of 168 pounds.

              If Canelo Alvarez is to fight on in his career, I would like to see him fight up at 175 pounds again 'and potentially fight David Benavidez or one of the Champions there'.

              I still think that stylistically Benavidez is a fight straight up Alvarez's street, at 175 pounds? Benavidez does not appear to be as effective like he was at 168 pounds with his power. Which was one of his main attributes, along with his punch combinations and aggression. I think David Benavidez is there for the taking at 175 pounds, it is almost inevitable.

              Note: Canelo Alvarez has had a great career 'and he has accomplished almost all there is in the professional rankings of the sport. He was an Undisputed Champion, and has fought many great fighters throughout his career win or lose'.

              I think his place as one of this boxing era's greatest fighters 'is already solidified, much like Oleksandr Uysk, Anthony Joshua and Tyson Fury. They have all already fought and won, their biggest fights and achieved their greatest feats. Anything more which they achieve at this stage of their career, is just a bonus to add onto their resume'.

              To conclude: So overall, I think it is a wise move that Canelo Alvarez does not immediately pursue a rematch with Terrence Crawford at 168 pounds 'because I suspect that one of the main influential factors as to why? Canelo Alvarez loss the fight, was because he is now dead at the weight of 168 pounds, and need to move back up into the 175 pounds divisions if he so desires to fight on in his career' etc.

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                #57
                Originally posted by MulaKO

                Got it , so when it’s convenient for you
                You do know that threads like this come back to bite you in the ass , right ?
                Cause I’m pretty sure that if I go search , a boxing aficionado like yourself , has sh/t on compubox at least once either for someone using that garbage to claim a victory or to disclaim one but this garbage site doesn’t pay me so no worries
                Thanks for answering my question, doe

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by MulaKO

                  Once you start talking the way you are you make it very easy to prove my point
                  Not gonna go through the twelve step program with you
                  and politely say
                  Obviously

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL
                    I think this is a wise move, because I suspect? That Canelo Alvarez is now dead at the weight of 168 pounds.

                    If Canelo Alvarez is to fight on in his career, I would like to see him fight up at 175 pounds again 'and potentially fight David Benavidez or one of the Champions there'.

                    I still think that stylistically Benavidez is a fight straight up Alvarez's street, at 175 pounds? Benavidez does not appear to be as effective like he was at 168 pounds with his power. Which was one of his main attributes, along with his punch combinations and aggression. I think David Benavidez is there for the taking at 175 pounds, it is almost inevitable.

                    Note: Canelo Alvarez has had a great career 'and he has accomplished almost all there is in the professional rankings of the sport. He was an Undisputed Champion, and has fought many great fighters throughout his career win or lose'.

                    I think his place as one of this boxing era's greatest fighters 'is already solidified, much like Oleksandr Uysk, Anthony Joshua and Tyson Fury. They have all already fought and won, their biggest fights and achieved their greatest feats. Anything more which they achieve at this stage of their career, is just a bonus to add onto their resume'.

                    To conclude: So overall, I think it is a wise move that Canelo Alvarez does not immediately pursue a rematch with Terrence Crawford at 168 pounds 'because I suspect that one of the main influential factors as to why? Canelo Alvarez loss the fight, was because he is now dead at the weight of 168 pounds, and need to move back up into the 175 pounds divisions if he so desires to fight on in his career' etc.
                    Canelo is too small for 175. He’s damn near too small for 168. Add that to him being pretty much an old fighter now, it’s not a wise move. I suggested in another thread that he fight Jermall Charlo at 168.

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL
                      I think this is a wise move, because I suspect? That Canelo Alvarez is now dead at the weight of 168 pounds.



                      I still think that stylistically Benavidez is a fight straight up Alvarez's street, at 175 pounds? Benavidez does not appear to be as effective like he was at 168 pounds with his power. Which was one of his main attributes, along with his punch combinations and aggression. I think David Benavidez is there for the taking at 175 pounds, it is almost inevitable.

                      dead at the weight?

                      canelo would get waxed at 175 & fighting benny at 175 would be far worse for canelo than at 168, at least he would force benny to make 168 and not easily make 175 where he is at now

                      just because benny may struggle with guys more at 175 than 168 does not mean that he would struggle with canelo more at 175 at all

                      not sure where u are getting the idea that benny is there for the taking at 175 either & it definitely wont be by canelo

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