Al Haymon is finished

[STREET CLEANER]

Once Floyd retired and they lost Showtime their days were number when they could not secure a network to air their fights. Plus they did too many PPVs with fights that didn't have that commercial appeal. They had hope with Amazon but the fights did not live up to ignite that relationship.

[Bennyleonard99]

Correct on everything, your post is the first I have heard about him in a while. Was Jared Anderson promoted by him? Not sure but someone tried to build a new black U.S HW, he just didn't have it though.

Jared Anderson is or was with Top Rank. When Anderson was talking about retiring at 26, you knew he had no heart.

[Bennyleonard99]

Once Floyd retired and they lost Showtime their days were number when they could not secure a network to air their fights. Plus they did too many PPVs with fights that didn't have that commercial appeal. They had hope with Amazon but the fights did not live up to ignite that relationship.

Didnt PBC have Fox for a while? But those in house set ups were lousy shows and did bad numbers.

[Bennyleonard99]

The well has run dry and they have no dates. Al certainly has lost the majority of the influence he had over the world of boxing.

One thing I always respected about Haymon is he never actually lied to us. All promoters, executives, managers, advisors etc just want to suck money out of the sport, I hate hearing them talk about “we’re here to grow the sport and do this and that”. Nah you’re here to make what you can. At least Al did it in silence without the need for camera time. He has damaged boxing massively though, he essentially killed both HBO and Showtime as boxing broadcasters, which I still think boxing is reeling from.

The other good thing is he overpaid his fighters. Even guys like Kownacki made a lot of money and was living in Brickell in Miami, he invested in real estate. Not the only mediocre fighter who got rich either.

[Bennyleonard99]

That's the main thing that really started to grate me about the PBC - I remember early on saying I thought it might be a good idea to have a PBC frontman who'd be able to speak up the fighters and company and provide vision about what is going on. The broadcast people are not suitable for that.

Contrast that with how TKO immediately provided their vision statement - to build fighters from the ground up and hopefully become like Tuesday Night Fights.

Also, look at how Eddie Hearn, Oscar, or Arum talk about fighters - they can go on for days giving intricate accounts of almost every fighter in the sport off the top of their head. PBC doesn't have a public version of that guy.

When Oscar promoted Haymon managed fighters, that's when they had something going. 10 years later, those same guys are still the most popular names they've had - all started with Oscar. They need that spokesman again to be out there grinding on behalf of PBC and its fighters. Still not too late - I'd love to see it.



One thing I appreciate about PBC is there are no women's fights. Bring back the blue ring mat sometimes though. Grey is just OK.

Not only did Haymon not do the dirty work and publicly hype his boxers, he didn't even attend his own shows. Very bad look to do that. The optics were the shows were so bad and rigged he didn't want to be there. Recluse or shy guy, doesn't matter, a promoter has to attend his own shows and verbally talk up his assets. Haymon seemed like a crook who was hiding. At least those were the optics.

[Bennyleonard99]

Oscar and Al were so good together. 2013 is probably the best year I can remember in the last 15 years. Obviously, behind the scenes things were a lot of moving parts and Schaefer was ready to stab Oscar in the back, but for the few years GBP and Al Haymon worked together, boxing was in a great place.

They definitely missed that frontman. I always expected it to be Floyd to be honest. Especially as PBC launched the same year of his retirement and him and Al had a longstanding relationship.

I always got the impression Al didn’t really care about promotion though, he just wanted to get paid and get his fighters paid. He didn’t crave the limelight like a Hearn or have an emotional attachment to his company like Arum, he was all business. I mean we barely ever saw the guy.

I’ve got to give him some credit as the vast majority of fighters who’ve had a working relationship with him speak very highly of him. He clearly made good money for a lot of fighters but in doing so I think he’s left boxing in a far worse state than he found it from a viewers perspective.

Haymon did manage to raise hundreds of millions from investors but he failed to develop any of his signed boxers into mega star franchises. And that was the intent. Wllder, Broner, Tank, Spence, Charlos all failed to become a cash cow. That failure was what killed the operation. He had the money, the platforms, the networks, the foundation was there to take over the sport - but he failed to develop any superstars. Stars sell sports. Wilder came closest but Fury crushed him and Haymon.

[daggum]

haymon was the theranos of boxing. congr-ats on the grift

[MulaKO]

It's finally all over for Al Haymon. His name has not been mentioned in about a year, he has no relevant shows, he has nothing in the works. Floyd is on his own doing his WWF scams. Tank sold out to Jake Paul and will quit after he dives for the cash. Wilder Charlos have zero value. All he has left is the Fundora-Thurman set up which will be a fake fight to try to increase both of their value. The sport of boxing can finally say good riddance to the Al Haymon horror show of PBC in house phony WWF skits. Haymon and Floyd did irreparable damage to boxing in America - no stars other than Crawford and it's unknown if he can sell on his own. No American heavyweights. No network deals for boxing. Haymon's rubbish ran HBO and Showtime out of the sport.

Now you’ve really confirmed your alt Combat Rock

[RockyKO]

It's finally all over for Al Haymon. His name has not been mentioned in about a year, he has no relevant shows, he has nothing in the works. Floyd is on his own doing his WWF scams. Tank sold out to Jake Paul and will quit after he dives for the cash. Wilder Charlos have zero value. All he has left is the Fundora-Thurman set up which will be a fake fight to try to increase both of their value. The sport of boxing can finally say good riddance to the Al Haymon horror show of PBC in house phony WWF skits. Haymon and Floyd did irreparable damage to boxing in America - no stars other than Crawford and it's unknown if he can sell on his own. No American heavyweights. No network deals for boxing. Haymon's rubbish ran HBO and Showtime out of the sport.

The fans didn't exactly invest in their product. Everyone forgets about much quality HBO was when it aired boxing.

[STREET CLEANER]

Didnt PBC have Fox for a while? But those in house set ups were lousy shows and did bad numbers.

Yup, they put up crappy shows that failed to capture fans and viewers.