Comments Thread For: Daily Bread Mailbag: The future of Tank Davis, Terence Crawford, Lubin-Ortiz, credit for Felix Trinidad and Steve Collins

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  • Smash
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    #21
    i think y'all need to give yourselves a massive clap on your backs, i mean massive, once a day for the rest of your lives and do a selfie & post it why not as well

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    • CPNUTKnockoutFreshMart
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      #22
      Tito was my favorite fighter when he was still fighting. He was a wrecking machine. Tito didn't just end fights , he ended careers.

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      • factsarenice
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        Terence Crawford didn’t get his superfights until most fighters start to slip physically. Crawford was 35 when he fought Spence and 37

        bud crawford stuck and resigned with arum and stuck with him and eventually sued the guy lol, he made his own bed and did it exactly how he wanted it, there was no system or anything holding him back at all
        Al Hayman never let Paul Williams near Floyd. The PBC never let Benavidez near Canelo and Bob Arum never let Crawford near Manny. Crawford stayed with Aurm through the pandemic for guaranteed money, something the PBC simply didn't offer.

        I hope this helps you to understand how it all works.

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          #24
          Originally posted by factsarenice
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          Al Hayman never let Paul Williams near Floyd. The PBC never let Benavidez near Canelo and Bob Arum never let Crawford near Manny. Crawford stayed with Aurm through the pandemic for guaranteed money, something the PBC simply didn't offer.

          I hope this helps you to understand how it all works.
          ok mr snotty knickers

          the only time arum could have made the pac fight was maybe about 2019'ish i think when pac had his broner and keith fights which im sure pac wanted to make, bud was just making his way at 147 amir khan etc but arum cant force pac to fight someone im sure, pac makes his decisions i would say, the fights that pac fought at that time were better for him and thats what happened

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          • Bronx2245
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            #25
            I'm with Bread on this:

            But I UNDERSTAND Tank taking the Jake Paul fight. No fighter is going to turn down 60Ms to fight an exhibition. You can’t blame Tank for that.

            That's just facts! Now where I disagree 100% is Beanie Siegel over Black Thought! Sorry Bread, but you're dead wrong! Black Thought is a Top 5 ATG MC!

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            • factsarenice
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              #26
              Originally posted by Smash

              ok mr snotty knickers

              the only time arum could have made the pac fight was maybe about 2019'ish i think when pac had his broner and keith fights which im sure pac wanted to make, bud was just making his way at 147 amir khan etc but arum cant force pac to fight someone im sure, pac makes his decisions i would say, the fights that pac fought at that time were better for him and thats what happened
              Its bossy knickers but snotty works too, its got that insulting swagger to it.
              Last edited by factsarenice; 10-09-2025, 03:57 PM.

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              • daggum
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                #27
                Originally posted by Smash

                ok mr snotty knickers

                the only time arum could have made the pac fight was maybe about 2019'ish i think when pac had his broner and keith fights which im sure pac wanted to make, bud was just making his way at 147 amir khan etc but arum cant force pac to fight someone im sure, pac makes his decisions i would say, the fights that pac fought at that time were better for him and thats what happened


                arum cant force crawford to fight someone im sure, the fights crawford fought at that time were better for him. crawford makes his own decisions...now lets look at the decisions he made.


                2016-Terence Crawford insisted that any fight with Manny Pacquiao would have to take place at the 140-pound super lightweight division. In 2016, after defeating Viktor Postol to unify titles at 140 pounds, Crawford made it clear that Pacquiao would need to move down in weight to meet him there. pac needs to move down to fight crawford...ya kidding?

                2018-crawford moves up to fight...jeff horn? but not pac.

                2019-pac beats thurman and is back on top

                2020-Top Rank chairman Bob Arum received authorization from Pacquiao this summer to pursue a fight with Crawford in Qatar slated for November on ESPN PPV, sources said, and talks ostensibly reached an advanced stage.

                Crawford was offered $6.5 million guaranteed, per sources, along with upside of the pay-per-view at $5 for every buy over 300,000. He countered at $9.5 million with upside at 500,000. crawford went on to fight kell brook for much less...priced himself out.

                2021-The proposed Manny Pacquiao-Terence Crawford welterweight title fight, pegged for June 5, appears all but dead after the funding from Abu Dhabi investors never came through.

                “Sources: If deal completed, the fight would have headlined ESPN+ PPV. Pacquiao signed his contract, but Crawford never did.


                the crawford wanted pac or pac ducked crawford narrative seems to be completely made up...by crawford. he had plenty of opportunities to fight him.

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