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  • slimshandy69
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    even an american boxing site thought froch won..

    this from boxing new...a american news feed..please you are running thin of excuses..and they hate froch on this site...

    http://www.************.com/2009/10/...eigns-supreme/

    People call it a controversial decision, but I completely disagree. I thought it was a fair decision. This is a boxing match, a sport where two fighters fight. It is not a game where one guy runs and the other has to catch him.

    First of all, Dirrell isn’t a bad fighter when he fights, key word being ‘when’. Froch cornered him so many times and Dirrell, rather than fight his way out, slid out of the way against the ropes and ran. Now, some say he used his speed and footwork, but this is boxing. You use your feet to help generate more power in punching and evade punches, not by running half away around the ring out the way. The speed should be how fast you are as a whole, not just focusing on the feet as Dirrell proved. I’ll even say this, Had Dirrell have counter punched Froch as he came in, whilst sliding off the ropes to evade, he’d have probably won a landslide on the cards. To give an example of what I mean, think Mayweather knocking Hatton down the first time in their fight. As Hatton moved in, Mayweather moved and punched. Still, if he don’t learn this, there’s always a spot next to Tyson Gay on the 100 metres track.

    Second reason as to why Froch won was he was the aggressor. He was the one who wanted to fight, always looking to fight with Dirrell, chasing him down. He forced the fight to Dirrell for the full 12 rounds. Had he not done this, you’d have had Froch standing in the centre of the ring, with Dirrell doing laps around him. When they clinched, Froch would try and work on the inside with shots to the head rather than having a cuddle like Dirrell wanted. Perhaps Dirrell was whispering sweet nothings into his ear after all the insults he said in the build up. When Froch did land, it hurt Dirrell, and Dirrell looked to spoil. It made Dirrell look like he had the speed of Jones, but the spoiling tactics of Hopkins. It looked like Dirrell had no confidence in his own chin after being knocked down by Hanshaw. No matter how many times I see that ‘slip’ as it was ruled, it was definitely a knockdown.

    Third reason was Dirrell was his constant negativity. He held Froch so many times and pushed him onto the ropes. This was clear as Froch often had his hands by his side if he wasn’t trying to punch Dirrell, which is the name of the game, and let Dirrell push him against the ropes just to prove it was all one way clinching. Whenever Froch got in close, this was Dirrell’s tactic and he rightly got a point deducted. Also, he was on the canvas four times moaning about one thing or another, albeit Froch threw him to the floor the once. Obviously, we can include running than fighting to be his main flaw in his negativity.

    You look at this fight being a stinker and you look at why it was, and all fingers point to Dirrell. One guy wanted a fight, the other guy wanted to run, so in a fight, who should the decision go to? Froch came to fight, when he landed he hurt, was happy to mix it in rare cases where Dirrell threw meaningful punches and he stalked Dirrell down.

    As Froch said, you should earn the title, not come to steal it. Did Dirrell do enough to win? I don’t think he did. You earn the title by boxing and throwning punches, not running away from them. It wasn’t Froch’s greatest performance due to Dirrell’s awkwardness and unwillingness to fight, but he didn’t deserve to lose his title in a fight like that and rightfully didn’t.

    I’m not fully slating Dirrell, he has potential to be good, even a world champion, but his tactics for the fight were all wrong. With that said, for his flashy punches, I don’t think he’d have the chin to stand in front of a guy like Froch. What he does have is hand speed in abundance and needs to use this skill a hell of a lot more.

    With that said, I can’t wait for his fight with Arthur Abraham, a powerful guy with more handspeed. It’ll be interesting to see if Dirrell has really learnt his lesson. I predict a AA stoppage. Froch fight Kessler, which I hope will be a slugfest. I think Kessler’s chin is largely untested so I’m intrigued as to who wins this one. I see a stoppage either way.
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    Spot on analysis. Dirrell even clinched when there was no need to. Just going overboard with survival tactics that should only be used when you are seeing stars and your legs have gone.
    If Froch had of done that it would have been a wrestling match. When dirrell was clinching, froch made a point of keeping his hands by his side.

    Dirrell knew he couldnt win a fight on frochs turf with these tactics yet persisted with them. So how does dirrell deserve anything? He got the backings of one judge and he should be more than happy with that.

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    • shade darkar
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      froch is fcukin wank. hes not even as good as junior witter and he is really wank.

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      • Cle-Venger
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        #4
        Look, wy is everyone still atguing about this. There were 4-6 rds too close too call.. Thats why everyone has a different winner, lets get over it.

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        • Marcov
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          #5
          Everybody thinks he won, not just American sites. Look at the result. It's just the judges people question.

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          • rskumm21
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            #6
            You obviously feel insecure about the win if you're still trying to prove your point. Give it a rest already dude.

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            • Bryght
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              #7
              Look, limeball - I believe Froch won that fight. But, everytime a Brit beats an American name you guys make it a national holiday. Calm down...this isn't football.

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                Originally posted by hugh grant
                Spot on analysis. Dirrell even clinched when there was no need to. Just going overboard with survival tactics that should only be used when you are seeing stars and your legs have gone.
                If Froch had of done that it would have been a wrestling match. When dirrell was clinching, froch made a point of keeping his hands by his side.

                Dirrell knew he couldnt win a fight on frochs turf with these tactics yet persisted with them. So how does dirrell deserve anything? He got the backings of one judge and he should be more than happy with that.
                exactly spot on...

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                • Freddy Krueger
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                  #9
                  Even the biased british announcers had froch losing. Even the biased british announcers know that you don't get points for hitting air.

                  Nottingham rules clearly state that you win rounds by throwing your opponent on the ground and you lose points for actually landing punches on your opponents.

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                  • S A M U R A I
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by rskumm21
                    You obviously feel insecure about the win if you're still trying to prove your point
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