This maybe the tip of the iceberg re: su****ions of performance enhancers use by PAC

[ummid]

This is something we should all take note of and investigate further.

yep, try investigating the source while you're at it, broheim.

[Al Haymon]

i remember that thread, i tried to counter all these data points you stated without using that "nice guy defense" but you didn't respond to those counters. you still kept bringing up the so-called data points, it was like talking to a brick wall... so i gave up.

listen, i know you know alot about boxing, but to be able to get a good debate going, you have to actually listen to who you are talking with and try to comprehend them, you can't just keep stating all your stuffs without understanding what the other guy is saying. this isn't a one way street. if you are just here to troll on the pac huggers tho, you're doing a good job.

If i'm doing that, then I'm not doing a good job.

I'm here to learn AND to share info. I will try to be less heavy-handed.

[ummid]

They aren't the same person.

The Trevor Graham that was involved in the BALCO scandal was a track & field coach, that exclusively trained sprinters.

don't bother, these people didn't even bother to get the source, do you actually think they would have enough brain power to look up "trevor graham" on google/wiki?

"pac", "peformance enhancers", "balco", "marion jones"... boom! pac is taking steroids! its official! - that's how limited some of the posters' reading comprehension is on these boards.

[Sudo]

Pacman moved up 3 weightclasses in a year, and he carried all his power and his endurance to 147.

He was a big guy before for 130 and 135, but this is su****ious. You can move up a weight class and carry your power, but to move up 2-3 weight classes in little time, and to carry everything it's just su****ious.

[MIP4P1]

He's on steroids.

Against Morales in the first fight, he was the "smaller" man. In the rematch, he had to drain to make weight and hydrated up to a welterweight.

[rao007]

Pacman moved up 3 weightclasses in a year, and he carried all his power and his endurance to 147.

He was a big guy before for 130 and 135, but this is su****ious. You can move up a weight class and carry your power, but to move up 2-3 weight classes in little time, and to carry everything it's just su****ious.

1.) When Pacquiao faced Manuel Marquez in 2008 he was already draining himself to make the weight which Steward added that Pacquiao was naturally heavier man than Marquez.

2.) Did you see David Diaz and the Oscar fight? Pacquiao needed to throw everything just the hurt the guys by rounds 8/9. Both said afterwards that Pacquiao's punches didn't hurt and a sign that Pacquiao did not carry his overall power to the higher weights. In hatton's that was just running in with his chin exposed--it increases the affects of the opponents punches--Lennox Lewis commented about this I think during the Malignaggi--Hatton fight.

[ALG United]

Arent all his fights been made in the USA, dont they have the facilities to do this extensive testing, all this high profile athletes were banned or stripped of their medals because they were tested positive of drug use. Manny is close to retiring now, he tested negative before, and hes been testing negative ever since..

[ИATAS]

Pacman moved up 3 weightclasses in a year, and he carried all his power and his endurance to 147.

He was a big guy before for 130 and 135, but this is su****ious. You can move up a weight class and carry your power, but to move up 2-3 weight classes in little time, and to carry everything it's just su****ious.

It's not that amazing when you realize Pacquiao has weighed the same in all of these fights. Check his RING WEIGHT against guys at 130 and 135 and 140 (he always weighed around 140-145ish). What does that mean? Pacquiao is simply fighting closer to his actual walking around weight.

[larry x]

wow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[FLYBOY]

whatever u said, u backed up. No one will know for sure until he is proven guilty but we can all at least doubt him...