Comments Thread For: Dethroned Canelo Alvarez ranked as WBC?s No. 1 contender at 168lbs

[A.B Counterhooks]

I give him props for beatinf Canelo. But lets be honest if Canelo wasn't holding the titles hostage and actually fought Benavidez or Morell, Crawford wouldn't have become undisputed.

Lol thats not true at all, Benavidez held a belt and never unified the division,let alone come even close for undisputed. He had 2 shots actually, never did it. And Morrell lol? That guy is overrated af lets be honest here. Crawford does deserves his props tho. Beat The Man at 168 coming up 2 weightclasses with only one lackluster fight at 154.

Boy special.

[Malvado]

Canelo held the belts hostage for 4 years, of course he is going to get the first position to win them over in case anything happens.

I certainly hope not by the way, the division will finally get running with Crawford likely either moving down or retiring, if not at least he will prefer certain match ups so he likely vacates a belt or two.

Kind of hoping that Canelo fight Hamzah Sheeraz and then finally a fight with Benavidez could be done if he beat Sheeraz.

[garfios]

Whats the point of staying at 168? Bud dethroned the best smw out there in Canelo, might as well cut 8 pounds and try to conquer another division and another undisputed record,as for the Ginger he already undisputed 2x at smw maybe go for a third run on a highly lucrative Crawford rematch or against any of the top contenders if the later decides to vacate. Maybe Turki throws cash at him and lures him into a fight with Benny once he gets his ass whooped at 175 lol. One thing is certain, TC needs to keep himself active, cant have a champion of his caliber fighting once a year.

Canelo wasn't never the best, you can't be the best defending the fvking belts against the like of ryder, yildrim, berlanga, munguia etc, it is just not true. He kept the division hostage for 4 years, they were others fighters more worthy than those domestic level fighters, do I need to mention the names or do you know who I'm referring to? Jesus, people are not fans, they're freaking cult followers.

[A.B Counterhooks]

Canelo wasn't never the best, you can't be the best defending the fvking belts against the like of ryder, yildrim, berlanga, munguia etc, it is just not true. He kept the division hostage for 4 years, they were others fighters more worthy than those domestic level fighters, do I need to mention the names or do you know who I'm referring to? Jesus, people are not fans, they're freaking cult followers.

Lol I know you just cant stand the ginger I get it, but factually speaking Canelo was the best 168 ,took the belts from 3 champions and defend it against top contenders,whether you think they trash or whatever those were the champs/contender. Something Benavidez never did back when he had the WBC belt i may add, Im wondering, who you considered was the real best 168 not name Canelo then? And please dont say Morrell

[Oregonian]

I give him props for beatinf Canelo. But let’s be honest if Canelo wasn't holding the titles hostage and actually fought Benavidez or Morell, Crawford wouldn't have become undisputed.

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You’re still doing the same thing - throwing out IF scenarios just to discredit Crawford’s win. So let’s apply the same logic to these guys, shall we?

IF Roy Jones had retired after beating Ruiz, he would have a case of being the GOAT.
IF Tyson didn’t go to prison, he would have had a case of being the GOAT.
IF Sugar Ray Leonard didn’t have a detached retina, at 26 years old, he would have had a case of being the GOAT.
IF Ali wasn’t stripped of his titles and banned from boxing for three years, there is no way he’d have lost to Frazier and his status as the true GOAT would never be questioned.
IF Oscar didn’t run from Tito the last 4 rounds, there was no way Tito wins that fight.
IF Salvador Sanchez didn’t die at just 23 years old, he would have had a case of being the GOAT.
IF Margarito did not have loaded gloves, he would not have beaten Cotto or anyone else for that matter.
IF Kell Brook never fought GGG, he wouldn’t have lost to Spence.
IF DiCaprio’s character didn’t die in Titanic, he would not have become the global superstar he became.

That IF argument can be used for literally anything and everything. Let’s be honest.

Give Crawford his flowers without diminishing it by throwing all sorts of IF scenarios. It’s that simple.

[Oregonian]

Lol thats not true at all, Benavidez held a belt and never unified the division,let alone come even close for undisputed. He had 2 shots actually, never did it. And Morrell lol? That guy is overrated af lets be honest here. Crawford does deserves his props tho. Beat The Man at 168 coming up 2 weightclasses with only one lackluster fight at 154.

Boy special.

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Everything you say about Crawford is true.
The part about Benavidez, not so much.

Canelo had 5 fights prior to Bud AND he could have elected to fight the only threat at 168 which was Benny. Every boxing analyst and/or expert are all in agreement that Canelo clearly and outrightly ducked Benny.

[A.B Counterhooks]

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Everything you say about Crawford is true.
The part about Benavidez, not so much.

Canelo had 5 fights prior to Bud AND he could have elected to fight the only threat at 168 which was Benny. Every boxing analyst and/or expert are all in agreement that Canelo clearly and outrightly ducked Benny.

Im not discusing the fact Canelo avoided the Benavidez fight but you cant deny Benavidez did had his shots prior to Canelo arrival to the division ,that fight could've easily get made just like any other but Benny blew it two times and got stripped. Either way Canelo has taken bigger risks than Benny at this point so thats not even debatable. Benny has a lot yet to prove especially now that hes fighting in his real natural division ,the weight bullying days are far gone.

[Oregonian]

Im not discusing the fact Canelo avoided the Benavidez fight but you cant deny Benavidez did had his shots prior to Canelo arrival to the division ,that fight could've easily get made just like any other but Benny blew it two times and got stripped. Either way Canelo has taken bigger risks than Benny at this point so thats not even debatable. Benny has a lot yet to prove especially now that hes fighting in his real natural division ,the weight bullying days are far gone.

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As long as you’re in agreement that Canelo ducked Benny we’re good.
And yes, Benny sabotaged himself but that’s not say Canelo would have been on board to fight him if Benny didn’t **** up.

Virgil Ortiz fans are saying the same thing about Boots. That Boots had his shot and he blew it do now Ortiz is never fighting him. Assuming Boots wins a couple of belts at 154 and Ortiz is still at 154, is there a reason for Ortiz to refuse that fight?

[A.B Counterhooks]

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As long as you’re in agreement that Canelo ducked Benny we’re good.
And yes, Benny sabotaged himself but that’s not say Canelo would have been on board to fight him if Benny didn’t **** up.

Virgil Ortiz fans are saying the same thing about Boots. That Boots had his shot and he blew it do now Ortiz is never fighting him. Assuming Boots wins a couple of belts at 154 and Ortiz is still at 154, is there a reason for Ortiz to refuse that fight?

I mean the fight was logical as Canelo moving up in weight from 160 was imminent, Canelo would have fought him just like he did BJS, Plant and Callum ,unfortunately Benny sabotaged himself like you correctly said. For every action there is a re action.

[MulaKO]

Lol thats not true at all, Benavidez held a belt and never unified the division,let alone come even close for undisputed. He had 2 shots actually, never did it. And Morrell lol? That guy is overrated af lets be honest here. Crawford does deserves his props tho. Beat The Man at 168 coming up 2 weightclasses with only one lackluster fight at 154.

Boy special.

Well said
Unfortunately Bud gets no respect ( in Rodney Dangerfield voice )