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  • Coverdale
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    #61
    Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT

    Yeah wouldn’t call it a duck either. As I said earlier there were logical reasons why it didn’t happen. But definitely a guy from his era he missed.
    Yes, I am consciously trying to avoid the word 'duck' these days. It's been way overused and the calibre of person using it on this forum is usually some angry male imbecile.

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      #62
      Originally posted by NotIron

      I think Pacquiao definitely missed Crawford. In fact I’d say he outright avoided him.

      RA The Rugged Man is a moron He reminds me of posters in here.

      I just don’t see how Floyd missed Williams when it was never a serious discussed fight.

      I think if we want to talk about legitimate fights Floyd missed then Stevie Johnston would be a legitimate one and then probably Margarito and I’d say that’s about it.
      Yeah definitely avoided him, nobody really wanted that Crawford smoke at 147 in the 2010’s.

      I think it would have been an interesting fight around 2007, was never gonna be an attractive fight for Floyd, I certainly wouldn’t say Floyd should have fought him either, he had bigger fish to fry.

      I always think Tszyu would’ve been a nice addition, 140 was the only weight he never claimed the lineal title, think Floyd was HBO and Tszyu was SHO, which made it difficult.

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        #63
        Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT

        Yeah definitely avoided him, nobody really wanted that Crawford smoke at 147 in the 2010’s.

        I think it would have been an interesting fight around 2007, was never gonna be an attractive fight for Floyd, I certainly wouldn’t say Floyd should have fought him either, he had bigger fish to fry.

        I always think Tszyu would’ve been a nice addition, 140 was the only weight he never claimed the lineal title, think Floyd was HBO and Tszyu was SHO, which made it difficult.
        Floyd wanted that fight with Tszyu. He was vocal about that. I think he saw a high reward lower risk kind if fight with Tszyu being inactive and injury prone.

        Couldn’t happen for many reasons but Floyd definitely wanted it.

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          #64
          Originally posted by Coverdale

          Yes, I am consciously trying to avoid the word 'duck' these days. It's been way overused and the calibre of person using it on this forum is usually some angry male imbecile.
          I think when it comes to Floyd, people wanted to see him lose that much that they become delusional. I openly don’t like the guy, but he deservedly retired undefeated and beat countless great fighters.

          When I say, a fighter missed someone, I’m not implying they are ducking at all, I’m just pointing out a guy from their era they could have fought but didn’t. The point of the thread was essentially to find someone who literally fought everyone they could from their era because it’s essentially impossible.

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            #65
            Originally posted by NotIron

            Floyd wanted that fight with Tszyu. He was vocal about that. I think he saw a high reward lower risk kind if fight with Tszyu being inactive and injury prone.

            Couldn’t happen for many reasons but Floyd definitely wanted it.
            I think it looks a little bit like the Gatti fight had it happened in the early-mid 2000’s. Would’ve been a nice addition to his collection picking up lineal at 140.

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              #66
              Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT

              I think when it comes to Floyd, people wanted to see him lose that much that they become delusional. I openly don’t like the guy, but he deservedly retired undefeated and beat countless great fighters.

              When I say, a fighter missed someone, I’m not implying they are ducking at all, I’m just pointing out a guy from their era they could have fought but didn’t. The point of the thread was essentially to find someone who literally fought everyone they could from their era because it’s essentially impossible.
              Yes, please don't think I was accusing you of anything. I understand your intention with this thread and it's a good one.

              Not particularly a fan of Floyd either. All his fights were in the US with a US referee for one thing. With that said, he fought most of the people he could reasonably have been expected to. I would have preferred the Cotto fight at 147 immediately after Hatton rather than when it did happen. And Pacquiao in 2010 (obviously).

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                #67
                Originally posted by Coverdale

                Yes, please don't think I was accusing you of anything. I understand your intention with this thread and it's a good one.

                Not particularly a fan of Floyd either. All his fights were in the US with a US referee for one thing. With that said, he fought most of the people he could reasonably have been expected to. I would have preferred the Cotto fight at 147 immediately after Hatton rather than when it did happen. And Pacquiao in 2010 (obviously).
                I would have liked to see him fight Mosley earlier too, not too sure when, maybe 2006-2007. I was at the Hatton fight and it was an amazing event in terms of spectacle and atmosphere but in the ring it was a bit of a mismatch. Not sure if I have the timeline right but I’m sure Mosley was his mandatory, I think he’d beaten Vargas x2 and then Collazo for the WBC interim. I remember after Floyd-Oscar I was hoping for Floyd-Shane next.

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                  #68
                  u talk about floyd fighting everyone but after his ricky hatton fight the WW division its top 5 had cotto williams mosley margo it was called the hottest division in boxing & floyd had not fought any of those guys at all, & what did he do? he retired and came back a year or a year and a half later and fought jmm

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                    #69
                    From current era... Chisora, Usyk, Derevyanchenko, Lomachenko, Donaire, Chocolatito, Badou Jack

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                      #70
                      Originally posted by NotIron

                      Floyd wanted that fight with Tszyu. He was vocal about that. I think he saw a high reward lower risk kind if fight with Tszyu being inactive and injury prone.

                      Couldn’t happen for many reasons but Floyd definitely wanted it.
                      its easy to "want a fight' in the media, thats literally the whole point of going to the media. to spin your narrative. what matters is action. floyd took no action to make the fight. being vocal conveys nothing about being truthful, and often can be used to be deceptive.

                      lets talk about credibility and how words dont matter if you have none. floyd is the same guy that said he wanted winky wright. then winky said ok lets fight and floyd said oh ummm yeah ill fight you but you need to come down to 154 with a rehydration clause, obviously floyd thought this would kill the fight but winky said sure thing lets do it and agreed to floyds terms, floyd then said oh wait i should get even more money. goalpost movingggggggggggg

                      we have seen that same method to duck fights with pac, take the test take the test, 14 days? oh you agreed? 0 days. oh you agreed? i should get more money and you should barely get any. its such a joke. he did not want the tsyzu fight. the only thing you are going on is him saying he wanted the fight but he has no credibility or honesty as proven so no, we simply cant trust his words. we have to look at his actions and his actions show he did nothing to want the fight.

                      from what i remember tsyzu even proposed an hbo/showtime joint promotion to make the fight, floyd did his media thing and moved on till the fight was no longer relevant, im surprised he didnt fight tszyu after hatton knocked him out, would fit his personality profile. you all said i was ducking tsyzu 5 years ago well i proved you wrong! he creates the conditions for fights not happening and then uses those conditions to justify why they didnt happen. his excuses also contradict themselves constantly. i cant fight top rank guys, yet he didnt fight top rank guys when he was with top rank, then he did fight pac when he was with top rank thus disproving his BS claim. its a joke people fall for his excuses.
                      Last edited by daggum; 08-30-2025, 10:20 AM.

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