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  • boxingitis
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    #21
    Vergil vs Lubin is better than
    Fundora vs No Time Thurman
    Ennis vs unknown Lima
    Zayas vs Pizza Deliver Guy
    Murtazaliev vs nobody, literally

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    • factsarenice
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      #22
      Originally posted by Smash

      ive asked several of the ortiz butt sniffers to post any link to details of this offer and nothing has returned whatsoever, is that not a bid odd lol
      Vergil basically said that he would only fight Murtazaliev if he could violate the IBF weight limit and then he clearly admitted the extra weight was an advantage he wouldn't fight without.

      My heart sunk because I like Vergil Ortiz, but now I have serious questions. Were Vergil's wins because he was better or because he's really a middleweight that shrinks down to over power smaller fighters.

      If it's the latter....a fight with Jaron Ennis will be a repeat of Spence/Crawford and I think Oscar knows it.
      Last edited by factsarenice; 08-28-2025, 01:45 PM.

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        #23
        Originally posted by factsarenice

        Vergil basically said that he would only fight Murtazaliev if he could violate the IBF weight limit and then he clearly admitted the extra weight was an advantage he wouldn't fight without.

        My heart sunk because I like Vergil Ortiz, but now I have serious questions. Were Vergil's wins because he was better or because he's really a middleweight that shrinks down to over power smaller fighters.

        If it's the latter....a fight with Jaron Ennis will be a repeat of Spence/Crawford and I think Oscar knows it.
        yeah but thats not an offer to the russian guy, thats just ortiz coming out with a lot of BS, where did he even say this, on his social media account?

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          #24
          Originally posted by boxingitis
          Vergil vs Lubin is better than
          Fundora vs No Time Thurman
          Ennis vs unknown Lima
          Zayas vs Pizza Deliver Guy
          Murtazaliev vs nobody, literally
          Pizza delivery guy just destroyed Tellez! lol

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          • boxingitis
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            #25
            Originally posted by steeve steel

            Pizza delivery guy just destroyed Tellez! lol
            Who is that. I just made up the Pizza Delivery guy since Zayas beat a Hot Dog Vendor is last fight, as his next opponent .

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            • factsarenice
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              #26
              Originally posted by Smash

              yeah but thats not an offer to the russian guy, thats just ortiz coming out with a lot of BS, where did he even say this, on his social media account?
              Ortiz talked about it in a couple of interviews, right around the time he secured the fight with Ericson Lubin. He didn't use those exact words, but that's exactly what it boiled down to. In one interview his exact words were , "every inch that you can get, every percentage (referring to weight advantage) you want to keep. Get the rule taken off (meaning the weight limit ) and the fight is easy”. I need to look up the other interview because he was more straight forward, he talked about his weight as an advantage and he wasn't going to give up
              Last edited by factsarenice; 08-28-2025, 11:32 PM.

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              • factsarenice
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                #27
                Originally posted by boxingitis
                Vergil vs Lubin is better than
                Fundora vs No Time Thurman
                Ennis vs unknown Lima
                Zayas vs Pizza Deliver Guy
                Murtazaliev vs nobody, literally
                Serhii Bohachuk vs Brandon Adams, far more competitive than any fight on that list

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                • boxingitis
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by factsarenice

                  Serhii Bohachuk vs Brandon Adams, far more competitive than any fight on that list
                  Talking about 154 not 160. Fact.

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                  • Smash
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by factsarenice
                    Ortiz talked about it in a couple of interviews, right around the time he secured the fight with Ericson Lubin. He didn't use those exact words, but that's exactly what it boiled down to. In one interview his exact words were , "every inch that you can get, every percentage (referring to weight advantage) you want to keep. Get the rule taken off (meaning the weight limit ) and the fight is easy”. I need to look up the other interview because he was more straight forward, he talked about his weight as an advantage and he wasn't going to give up
                    sounds like he is boasting about being a weight bully to me lol, i wont fight unless i have all my bulk whatever that may be why not tell us vigil

                    im not seeing any offer to the russian guy or anything concrete whatsoever just the ramblings of a im not even sure what to call him actually, if u want to make an offer for a fight u get your promoter to contact with the offer not some inane ramblings that dont even seem to be logged on the internet anywhere

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                    • Smash
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by factsarenice
                      "every inch that you can get, every percentage (referring to weight advantage) you want to keep. Get the rule taken off (meaning the weight limit ) and the fight is easy”. p
                      if thats all he said in some interview somewhere and the ortiz butt sniffers have jumped on this as the russian guy who is actually 'ducking' the fight, the belt holder lol its the height of embarrassment, a new level

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