Comments Thread For: Virgil Ortiz respects Erickson Lubin for doing what Xander Zayas and Boots Ennis would not

[LAchargers373]

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When Boots RAN away from 147, who did he fight at 154? Dulorme. A guy Boots had destroyed 4 years earlier. Ortiz could have fought any of the title holders at 154 but he chose to fight Boots' left overs AND you are ok with that. Was Dulorme a killer when Ortiz fought him?

he couldn’t make 154 anymore. What do you want the guy to do? He’s younger than bootsy and again look at their records. Bootsy can Madrimov and bohachuk why not? Why not have petitioned to fight bakram? Just more excuses to duck fights at 30 years old lol

[Oregonian]

he couldn’t make 154 anymore. What do you want the guy to do? He’s younger than bootsy and again look at their records. Bootsy can Madrimov and bohachuk why not? Why not have petitioned to fight bakram? Just more excuses to duck fights at 30 years old lol

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Why can’t you answer a simple question? When Ortiz ran to 154, he fought Dulorme. A guy Boots destroyed 4 years earlier.
Why would Ortiz duck ALL the guys at 154 to fight a no hope Dulorme?
Very soon Ortiz will move to 160 because he can’t make 154 anymore even though he’s younger than Boots, what will your excuse be then?

[LAchargers373]

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Why can’t you answer a simple question? When Ortiz ran to 154, he fought Dulorme. A guy Boots destroyed 4 years earlier.
Why would Ortiz duck ALL the guys at 154 to fight a no hope Dulorme?
Very soon Ortiz will move to 160 because he can’t make 154 anymore even though he’s younger than Boots, what will your excuse be then?

Bro you are not making sense.
1. Vergil didn’t call out everyone at 154 like bootsy
2. He hadn’t fought in 2 years almost died from auto immune response and has since fought bohachuk and madrimov

I truly don’t understand why you don’t want Bootsy to fight anyone? How can you stand for this cab driver fight? Another cab driver fight. He’s 30 years old and hasn’t fought an opponent who had to fight for a title in his entire career. It’s nuts you’re defending this. If Ortiz was fighting a bum like this guy Bootsy is fighting I would be sick. It’s about fighting better and better guys. All you have to do is look at their records to see who has been doing that and who hasn’t. Stop drinking the kool aid bro

[Oregonian]

Bro you are not making sense.
1. Vergil didn’t call out everyone at 154 like bootsy
2. He hadn’t fought in 2 years almost died from auto immune response and has since fought bohachuk and madrimov

I truly don’t understand why you don’t want Bootsy to fight anyone? How can you stand for this cab driver fight? Another cab driver fight. He’s 30 years old and hasn’t fought an opponent who had to fight for a title in his entire career. It’s nuts you’re defending this. If Ortiz was fighting a bum like this guy Bootsy is fighting I would be sick. It’s about fighting better and better guys. All you have to do is look at their records to see who has been doing that and who hasn’t. Stop drinking the kool aid bro

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Let’s start with facts - Boots turned 28 years old two months ago. Why do you keep saying he’s 30. He’s not. He’s 9 months older than Ortiz.

Ortiz moved to 154 in April of 2024 and his first fight was the no hoper Dulorme who had been destroyed by Boots 4 years earlier. He started out with a soft touch. Nothing wrong with that.
In the same context, Boots just moved to 154 and is starting out with a soft touch BUT a lot better than Dulorme. I am not defending it. I wish Boots challenged any of the title holders especially Fundora.

Again, unlike you, I have no issues admitting it’s not a great fight. You are discrediting Boots while elevating Ortiz who did the same thing.
Unlike Ortiz, Boots unified two belts at 147.

The fact is Boots and Ortiz will end up fighting soon enough. If they don’t, we’ll know who ducked who.

[LAchargers373]

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Let’s start with facts - Boots turned 28 years old two months ago. Why do you keep saying he’s 30. He’s not. He’s 9 months older than Ortiz.

Ortiz moved to 154 in April of 2024 and his first fight was the no hoper Dulorme who had been destroyed by Boots 4 years earlier. He started out with a soft touch. Nothing wrong with that.
In the same context, Boots just moved to 154 and is starting out with a soft touch BUT a lot better than Dulorme. I am not defending it. I wish Boots challenged any of the title holders especially Fundora.

Again, unlike you, I have no issues admitting it’s not a great fight. You are discrediting Boots while elevating Ortiz who did the same thing.
Unlike Ortiz, Boots unified two belts at 147.

The fact is Boots and Ortiz will end up fighting soon enough. If they don’t, we’ll know who ducked who.

Lmao we already know who ducked who. The guy who called one guy out then ducked lmao. Bootsy ootsy fans think Ortiz should jump to fight Bootsy whenever he says? Liiike lmao. Ortiz is next in line to fight fundora with his WBC why would Ortiz leave that to fight a nobody like Bootsy? A guy who’s never fought anyone world class and never even fought a ranked fighter at 154? Just makes no sense lmao. Bootsy already dropped in rankings cause all he does is fight cab drivers they out bohachuk over him. You’re a good guy but when it comes to ennis you and Bootsy nuthuggers are just completely unrealistic lol. Sad.

[Oregonian]

Lmao we already know who ducked who. The guy who called one guy out then ducked lmao. Bootsy ootsy fans think Ortiz should jump to fight Bootsy whenever he says? Liiike lmao. Ortiz is next in line to fight fundora with his WBC why would Ortiz leave that to fight a nobody like Bootsy? A guy who’s never fought anyone world class and never even fought a ranked fighter at 154? Just makes no sense lmao. Bootsy already dropped in rankings cause all he does is fight cab drivers they out bohachuk over him. You’re a good guy but when it comes to ennis you and Bootsy nuthuggers are just completely unrealistic lol. Sad.

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You chose to ignore everything I wrote in the timeline of both guys, including their ages.
History and facts will list Boots as unifying two WW titles.
History will list Ortiz as a guy who ran from 147 after accomplishing NADA.

Now on to realistic expectations - Boots and Ortiz will fight most likely 2026. Unless one of them loses. How about we wait until then and then regroup? See, I mostly agree with your posts except for your take on Boots. And I didn’t even disagree with you about Boots fighting this guy in his 154 debut.

[LAchargers373]

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You chose to ignore everything I wrote in the timeline of both guys, including their ages.
History and facts will list Boots as unifying two WW titles.
History will list Ortiz as a guy who ran from 147 after accomplishing NADA.

Now on to realistic expectations - Boots and Ortiz will fight most likely 2026. Unless one of them loses. How about we wait until then and then regroup? See, I mostly agree with your posts except for your take on Boots. And I didn’t even disagree with you about Boots fighting this guy in his 154 debut.

Ortiz couldn’t petition for a title fight right away and he hadn’t fought in 2 years before he moved to 154. At 154 Ortiz has picked up the interim WBC, booked himself the first spot in line for fundoras belts beat bohachuk and Madrimov( who would both be by far the best names on ennis record but we all know he’d never fight either one). Ennis record is str8 cab drivers. They could’ve petitioned and got bakhram and a title fight right away that’s was bud did and most other champions do when they move up. But you making excuses cause Bootsy is sparring champion of the world? Lmao. If I’m Ortiz I’m chasing titles. Xayas, fundora, bakhram will all get fights with Ortiz before Bootsy does cause Bootsy brings NOTHING to the table. Not even a name cause he’s never even been in the ring with an elite fighter. All facts right there

[Oregonian]

Ortiz couldn’t petition for a title fight right away and he hadn’t fought in 2 years before he moved to 154. At 154 Ortiz has picked up the interim WBC, booked himself the first spot in line for fundoras belts beat bohachuk and Madrimov( who would both be by far the best names on ennis record but we all know he’d never fight either one). Ennis record is str8 cab drivers. They could’ve petitioned and got bakhram and a title fight right away that’s was bud did and most other champions do when they move up. But you making excuses cause Bootsy is sparring champion of the world? Lmao. If I’m Ortiz I’m chasing titles. Xayas, fundora, bakhram will all get fights with Ortiz before Bootsy does cause Bootsy brings NOTHING to the table. Not even a name cause he’s never even been in the ring with an elite fighter. All facts right there

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For a guy that isn’t a name, he sure seems to be the topic of heavy conversation on almost every platform. Again you are repeating something that I agree with you. Boots MUST fight any of the belt holders at 154 immediately. There are lofty expectations for him. If he does not do that by next year then yes, I’d be inclined to agree with you some more.