Comments Thread For: Vergil Ortiz-Erickson Lubin set for November 8

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Murtazaliev started negotiating with Kelly, then IBF mandated he fight Lubin, then Lubin said "Peace Out!" and now BM is back to negotiating with Kelly. It's ridiculous how Ortiz (WBC) and Lubin (IBF) are fighting each other instead of going after champions Fundora (WBC) and Murtazaliev (IBF).

I've been wondering why GBP is letting Fundora off the hook. Are they doubting Orti's chances vs. the 6'6 bean pole? They're probably hoping Thurman causes an upset because he's the easier match-up. Now that GBP lost Garcia, they seem to be moving even more carefully. Zepeda was soundly defeated by Shakur, so now they might be putting all of their hopes in Ortiz.

Yup, now they really got to push Ortiz and make up these stories how avoided he is. I think Ortiz is one of the young top fighters out there but they are stretching that narrative. Fundora would had been a winnable fight and they did not go for it, Murtazaliev has been labeled a boogey man but has not really beaten anyone of not except for an over-rated Tim.

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I'm assuming that Ortiz doesn't want to deal with the IBF's second weigh-in.

Looks like Murtazaliev is back to negotiating with Josh Kelly.

ortiz just moved up to 154 in 2024. now hes too drained? hogwash

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Yup, now they really got to push Ortiz and make up these stories how avoided he is. I think Ortiz is one of the young top fighters out there but they are stretching that narrative. Fundora would had been a winnable fight and they did not go for it, Murtazaliev has been labeled a boogey man but has not really beaten anyone of not except for an over-rated Tim.

It isn't necessarily quality of competition that signifies a boogeyman, but how prospective opponents always seem to have another opportunity lined up when the "boogeyman" enters the conversation. The "boogeyman" is never the first option and they always have trouble getting the most relevant names because they are deemed high-risk. Murtazaliev didn't just defeat Tszyu; he trashed him. That's really when people started claiming Tszyu was overrated...because he got beat up by someone who struggled with Jack Culcay. However, what I didn't realize was that Murtazaliev trained and fought Culcay during Ramadan. Team Tszyu made a major miscalculation when they chose Murtazaliev, and now no one else wants to make the same gamble.