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  • #81
    Originally posted by factsarenice View Post

    Tim's downfall was his arrogance and the ease in-which he could be manipulated. Tim trusted his team and got used by the people he trusted most. What George Rose and Jennings did for selfish short term gain is criminal and today, both are in good graces with the PBC and Tim is finished.

    As for Fundora, he's good but I'd take Bakhram Murtazaliev to beat 7 days and twice on Sunday and THAT is why they'll never fight. Sampson will have Fundora move to 160 and fight old names.
    I was not talking about who beats whom; my post was specifically about the "bum" moniker. That's all. And yes, matchmaking has a lot to do with that, but the boxer who gives him the beating is the one hammering the nail. All I could read and hear from his fans was that he was invincible, he beat a couple of guys, including Brian Mendoza, the kid that knocked Fundora's out, and his fans were ready to put him as P4P icon. Hindsight is always right, and fans today, because of the internet, post too much crap and are ready to elevate athletes to the stratosphere in their first fight.
    Last edited by garfios; 08-15-2025, 01:23 PM.

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    • #82
      Originally posted by roademier View Post

      We'll never know but Tim definitely wasn't the same fighter in the rematch as he was in the first one.
      Getting bounced off the canvas by Bakram certainly didn't help.
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      But we do know. Pac-Man was vaporized by Marquez in 2012. He won many fights after and in 2019 became the oldest WW champ in history.
      Cotto was knocked out by both Margarito and Pac-Man yet two years later he was a 154 Ibs champion.

      Tim is no different from all the great hope from Down Under. Jeff Horn, Kambosos, Katsidis, etc All got beat up when they stepped up.
      SUBZER0ED SUBZER0ED likes this.

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      • #83
        Originally posted by Oregonian View Post
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        But we do know. Pac-Man was vaporized by Marquez in 2012. He won many fights after and in 2019 became the oldest WW champ in history.
        Cotto was knocked out by both Margarito and Pac-Man yet two years later he was a 154 Ibs champion.

        Tim is no different from all the great hope from Down Under. Jeff Horn, Kambosos, Katsidis, etc All got beat up when they stepped up.
        OUCH! That's gotta sting!

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        • #84
          Originally posted by famicommander View Post

          Keith hasn't stopped someone with a pulse since Luis Collazo in 2015.
          And Keith has only ever been defeated by Manny Pacquiao, via split decision. Some fighters can tough it out, others get stopped, like Sebastian.

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          • #85
            Originally posted by garfios View Post

            I was not talking about who beats whom; my post was specifically about the "bum" moniker. That's all. And yes, matchmaking has a lot to do with that, but the boxer who gives him the beating is the one hammering the nail. All I could read and hear from his fans was that he was invincible, he beat a couple of guys, including Brian Mendoza, the kid that knocked Fundora's out, and his fans were ready to put him as P4P icon. Hindsight is always right, and fans today, because of the internet, post too much crap and are ready to elevate athletes to the stratosphere in their first fight.
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            Tim’s fans are all his countrymen.

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            • #86
              Originally posted by Oregonian View Post
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              Tim’s fans are all his countrymen.
              They're blind, too, or not patient enough to wait for the full development of the boxer.

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