Comments Thread For: The boxing judge: Blood, chins and why some fighters look worse but win

[BoxingUpdates]

You see a fighter bleeding from a cut over the eye and think: ?He?s losing.? The other guy is fresh-faced and composed. Easy round to score, right?
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[SteveM]

Which top fighters have taken most cumulative damage in their last 5 fights - sometimes one fight is all it takes


Off the top of my head
1/ Tim T
2/ Fury
3/ Wilder
4/ Joyce
5/ Spence
6/ Teraji
7/ Prograis
8/ Haney

[DeeMoney]

Lots of good points here, some dudes just cut or bruise easily- thats not what should be measured.

To the author's point of fighter A landing one big power punch while fighter B lands a lot more smaller punches that don't equate to the damage of the one punch fighter A landed. I agree 'A' should win that round, but what about when its the other way around? Fighter A lands the one big punch, while 'B' lands more punches, BUT the cumulative impact and damage of the smaller punches is greater than that of the one big punch. I think too often judges score the one big punch, and ignore the cumulative.

I think it would be cool if someone, or possibly AI, reviewed individual judges scorecards, to see what specific individual judges tend to favor. Though nobody will because this would go a long way to snuffing out corrupt scoring or corruption conspiracy theories (and boxing fans love those); also it would lead to certain fighters requesting judges who favor their style (but I'd imagine this already happens).

[The Big Dunce]

Marciano shed a lot of blood in the ring, never lost a fight. Chuckie Wepner had skin made of tissue paper and was known as the Bayonne Bleeder, but he was rarely hurt or in big trouble. Some fighters cut easy, especially after being cut in the past and developing scar tissue that busts open from a jab.

[CPNUTKnockoutFreshMart]

Lots of good points here, some dudes just cut or bruise easily- thats not what should be measured.

To the author's point of fighter A landing one big power punch while fighter B lands a lot more smaller punches that don't equate to the damage of the one punch fighter A landed. I agree 'A' should win that round, but what about when its the other way around? Fighter A lands the one big punch, while 'B' lands more punches, BUT the cumulative impact and damage of the smaller punches is greater than that of the one big punch. I think too often judges score the one big punch, and ignore the cumulative.

I think it would be cool if someone, or possibly AI, reviewed individual judges scorecards, to see what specific individual judges tend to favor. Though nobody will because this would go a long way to snuffing out corrupt scoring or corruption conspiracy theories (and boxing fans love those); also it would lead to certain fighters requesting judges who favor their style (but I'd imagine this already happens).

You can look on Box Rec and see how Judges scored fights and if you rewatch the fight you can figure it out. Click on a fight , then click on "Bout" and then on the judges name . There's somewhere else that you can see how Judges scored fights compared to their peers at the fight as well as the WBC remote scoring but I forgot where it is. It's a tool that commissions and others use to evaluate a judges performance.

If you want step by step instructions on how to find the info on Box Rec hit me up in my inbox and I'll walk you through it. I'm not 100% sure if I have it right up above.

[CPNUTKnockoutFreshMart]

Marciano shed a lot of blood in the ring, never lost a fight. Chuckie Wepner had skin made of tissue paper and was known as the Bayonne Bleeder, but he was rarely hurt or in big trouble. Some fighters cut easy, especially after being cut in the past and developing scar tissue that busts open from a jab.

Guys like Gatti and Vasquez would start bleeding as soon as they signed the contract for a fight.