Who did better against Floyd: Pacquiao or Maidana?

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  • SouthpawRight
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    #151
    Originally posted by NotIron

    English, do you read it?

    He literally held less than 2 times per round on average. Less, than 2 times, per round. Meaning it objectively wasn’t his strategy.
    if manny knew what he was doing on the inside

    he’d have anti-clinch techniques

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      #152
      Originally posted by NotIron



      He literally held less than 2 times per round on average
      Who cares what the average is his excessive holding ruined a megafight

      Probably the worst megafight performance ever i can't think of a performance more horrible about as horrific as Floyd vs Baldymir when he emptied the joint out

      You didn't see srl or hearns excessively holding all fight
      Last edited by djtmal; 08-28-2025, 10:28 AM.

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      • NotIron
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        #153
        Originally posted by djtmal

        Who cares what the average is his excessive holding ruined a megafight

        Probably the worst megafight performance ever i can't think of a performance more horrible about as horrific as Floyd vs Baldymir when he emptied the joint out

        You didn't see srl or hearns excessively holding all fight
        Except less than 2 per round is objectively not excessive. What part of your thick skull is not understanding that?

        Muhammad Ali for example held more in Frazier 2 than Mayweather did probably his entire career combined.

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        • QballLobo
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          #154
          How is this even a question? Maidana arguably won that first fight. If he was the money fighter he likely gets that decision.

          Second fight ref was brought in to step in quickly every time Maidana got inside.

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            #155
            Originally posted by NotIron

            Except less than 2 per round is objectively not excessive. What part of your thick skull is not understanding that?

            Muhammad Ali for example held more in Frazier 2 than Mayweather did probably his entire career combined.
            manny was bigger on fight night outweighing Floyd by 2 pounds

            Despite manny size advantage manny got handled in the clinches anyways rofl

            this manny guy waited until Floyd looked vulnerable against Marcos before making the fight where Floyd 10-2’d manny

            no way would manny have agreed to fight Floyd coming off of the Saul performance

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            • Smash
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              #156
              Originally posted by SouthpawRight
              manny was bigger on fight night outweighing Floyd by 2 pounds

              Despite manny size advantage manny got handled in the clinches anyways rofl


              with that 2 ibs size advantage u would have think he should have ragdolled floydy

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                #157
                Originally posted by SouthpawRight
                manny was bigger on fight night outweighing Floyd by 2 pounds

                Despite manny size advantage manny got handled in the clinches anyways rofl

                can i ask where u are getting your fight night weight for the two of them from?

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                  #158
                  Originally posted by Smash

                  with that 2 ibs size advantage u would have think he should have ragdolled floydy
                  great fighter that manny top 15 all time

                  but manny was faced with a boxing god who could be top 10 all time

                  when it comes to skill and all around ability Floyd is definitely up there with the Sugar Robinsons Sugar Leonards

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                  • SouthpawRight
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                    #159
                    Originally posted by Smash

                    can i ask where u are getting your fight night weight for the two of them from?
                    live broadcast weighed them a second time the night of the fight and displayed it before the match

                    It’s in there somewhere if you have access to the full recording of the broadcast

                    I always knew they’re about the same size but was surprised to see that manny is slightly bigger than Floyd by 2 pounds

                    Maybe Floyd wasn’t in the mood to drink a lot of water that day

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                    • ELPacman
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                      #160
                      Maidana without a doubt. I even thought he might of won a SD when it was over in their first fight.

                      Granted Manny looked like a shell of himself against Jr. The shoulder injury definitely played into that, but it also wasn't the same Pac that blitzed ODLH/Hatton and Cotto. It was also posted Marquez flattening.

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