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  • TheProudLunatic
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    #121
    Originally posted by daggum
    wait you guys didnt know pac agreed to no cut off and floyd still didnt take the fight? this explains a lot. thats ok. yeah pac agreed to all of floyds demands and floyd said oh ok well you only get a 40 million flat fee no ppv...for a 500 million fight. you would agree that is a duck right? i thought everyone knew that but some people probably didnt follow the saga. yeah when that happened everyone realized floyd never wanted teh fight. pac called his bluff and floyd changed his demands for what the 4th time? there were some floyd diehards that pretended like pac turning down that sh-it offer was a duck but that held no water. they all acted like you talking about pac should have agreed earlier, when we know what happened when pac agreed. no fight. floyd viciously ran a media attack campaign that fooled a lot of people but facts are he never wanted the fight as showed by him constantly changing his own demands!
    No link.........

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    • TheProudLunatic
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      #122
      A clean fighter -
      "You want to take blood from me in between rds ?
      LFG !!!"

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        #123


        Originally posted by daggum

        floyd got caught cheating. they let him and covered it up. i suggest you read the literature on the subject. it was a program that was setup to allow floyd to cheat through the use of tue's. that is not even up for debate. floyd literally could do anything and you would defend him i suppose. just like a certain orange man. floyd is a cheater. deal with it. do you really think floyd has the personality of an egalitarian that wants "fair fights" i suggest you study human behavior and psychology. he clearly would do anything to win and he did.
        Hey guy, you don’t know who you’re talking to do you? Does the Username give you any clues? You remember me, the guy who spanks your little botty on this forum none stop? No you clearly don’t know otherwise you’d never have replied to me you pathetic fat fuck

        Oh you suggest I do that, do you? I suggest you kill yourself. Buddy, I have forgotten more about this subject than you will ever know in the entirety of your sad pathetic life. Don’t go down this road with me, please. I am tired of embarrassing you none stop. You have not even the first clue about drugs, drug testing or how it works. So please, do yourself a favour.

        You are at a point where you are actually deeming USADA as as “fake testing” Are you legit straight up brain dead or are your dribbling spastic parents genuinely siblings? It’s one or the other.

        So just to repeat again, the UFC, a multi BILLION dollar company used USADA exclusively to administer their drug tests for a decade to which they caught a plethora of their athletes using PEDS. And that is “fake” to you is it?

        Get a clue, you fat basement dwelling cunt.
        Last edited by NotIron; 09-01-2025, 12:12 AM.

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        • daggum
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          #124
          Originally posted by TheProudLunatic

          No link.........
          Pacquiao 'agrees to Mayweather's demands'
          ESPN staff
          July 8, 2011


          he literally agreed to full testing in 2011. the internet is full of links if you are like 10 years old. i found one in 2 seconds. what happened after that? floyd said pac only gets 40 million flat fee no ppv. he literally said this in interviews if you want to go back and watch them. even you have to agree thats a duck right? how do you go from 50-50 split to something that would have been like a 90-10 split?

          Mar. 02, 2012 Floyd Mayweather tells Bob Costas: I offered Manny Pacquiao $40 million for the fight

          hes literally admitting hes ducking pac there but to the average joe idiot they probably think oh wow 40 million! but in reality pac would have earned 200 to 300 million in a 50-50 split...the split floyd had already agreed to lol​ but he only changed it when pac agreed to full testing lol again. bluff...called.

          floyd also said this in 2012...

          "We all know the Pacquiao fight, at this particular time, will never happen, and the reason why the fight won't happen is because I will never do business with Bob Arum again in life, and Pacquiao is Bob Arum's fighter," Mayweather said.

          hey wait a minute he was willing to work with arum after pac got ktfo and lost a bunch of fights...as you can see he is full of sh-ite.

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            #125
            Originally posted by daggum

            Pacquiao 'agrees to Mayweather's demands'
            ESPN staff
            July 8, 2011


            he literally agreed to full testing in 2011. the internet is full of links if you are like 10 years old. i found one in 2 seconds. what happened after that? floyd said pac only gets 40 million flat fee no ppv. he literally said this in interviews if you want to go back and watch them. even you have to agree thats a duck right? how do you go from 50-50 split to something that would have been like a 90-10 split?

            Mar. 02, 2012 Floyd Mayweather tells Bob Costas: I offered Manny Pacquiao $40 million for the fight

            hes literally admitting hes ducking pac there but to the average joe idiot they probably think oh wow 40 million! but in reality pac would have earned 200 to 300 million in a 50-50 split...the split floyd had already agreed to lol but he only changed it when pac agreed to full testing lol again. bluff...called.

            floyd also said this in 2012...

            "We all know the Pacquiao fight, at this particular time, will never happen, and the reason why the fight won't happen is because I will never do business with Bob Arum again in life, and Pacquiao is Bob Arum's fighter," Mayweather said.

            hey wait a minute he was willing to work with arum after pac got ktfo and lost a bunch of fights...as you can see he is full of sh-ite.
            You left out the link
            You left out your answer to my question

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              #126
              A clean fighter -
              "I'm begging you to test me whenever YOU want.
              LFG !!!

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                #127
                Originally posted by NotIron



                Hey guy, you don’t know who you’re talking to do you? Does the Username give you any clues? You remember me, the guy who spanks your little botty on this forum none stop? No you clearly don’t know otherwise you’d never have replied to me you pathetic fat fuck

                Oh you suggest I do that, do you? I suggest you kill yourself. Buddy, I have forgotten more about this subject than you will ever know in the entirety of your sad pathetic life. Don’t go down this road with me, please. I am tired of embarrassing you none stop. You have not even the first clue about drugs, drug testing or how it works. So please, do yourself a favour.

                You are at a point where you are actually deeming USADA as as “fake testing” Are you legit straight up brain dead or are you dribbling spastic parents genuinely siblings? It’s one or the other.

                So just to repeat again, the UFC, a multi BILLION dollar company used USADA exclusively to administer their drug tests for a decade to which they caught a plethora of their athletes using PEDS. And that is “fake” to you is it?

                Get a clue, you fat basement dwelling cunt.
                i dont even look at user names so no i dont care who you are. when a drug testing program catches someone cheating and does everything in their power to make sure the athlete escapes scot-free its not a real testing program. i dont know what to tell you. usadas credibility is not very high. if you love them thats ok, im sure they do some legit work too, so does the mob. so what? in this case they failed.


                you know everything about it wow. like i said personality disorders are a serious thing. its very easy to predict how people will act if you know they have these disorders. floyd is not trying to make "fair fights" hes trying to cheat and he did cheat. why are you so offended that floyd cheated? some kind of para social relationship with him i suppose. that is what is embarrassing.
                Last edited by daggum; 09-01-2025, 12:23 AM.

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                • NotIron
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                  #128
                  Originally posted by daggum

                  i dont even look at user names so no i dont care who you are. when a drug testing program catches someone cheating and does everything in their power to make sure the athlete escapes scot-free its not a real testing program. i dont know what to tell you. usadas credibility is not very high. if you love them thats ok, im sure they do some legit work too, so does the mob. so what? in this case they failed.


                  you know everything about it wow. like i said personality disorders are a serious thing. its very easy to predict how people will act if you know they have these disorders. floyd is not trying to make "fair fights" hes trying to cheat and he did cheat. why are you so offended that floyd cheated? some kind of para social relationship with him i suppose. that is what is embarrassing.
                  Er, yeah, I do. This is what I do for a living and have done for over 4 decades. Unlike you, some morbidly obese cunt who lives in his inbred parents basement. You’ve got to be like what, approaching 400 lbs? Be honest.

                  This guy said “so does the mob” ! What kind of asinine false equivalent is that?! Look bud, just because your mother who is also your auntie gave you some psychology books to shut you up crying for more milk doesn’t make you smart, stop with the therapist crap, you can’t even spell. You’ve been on this site SEVENTEEN YEARS dude and you still can’t use basic punctuation. What in the flying fck have you been doing other than eating fried chicken and cheetos and taking it in turns to decide what boxer you’re totally going to obsessed with today?

                  You’ve just said you’re sure USADA “do some legit work too” Duhhhhhhh ya think? So how can they also be a “fake testing procedure” at the same time, dumbass? You are extremely under qualified to have this conversation and I would strongly consider further revision before attempting to speak on this topic. Or better yet, a bullet to the head also works. Not a soul will miss you, not even your inbred parents.

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                  • garfios
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                    #129
                    Originally posted by ijudge

                    chronological age is a less reliable measurement of aging in boxing compared to biological age.

                    Wilfred Benitez was already a shot fighter at age 25 after facing five hall of famers.

                    Floyd is older in a chronological sense but Pacquiao has more wear and tear in his body.

                    Pac also never tested positive in any of his fights including his latest one.
                    Did I say he was positive? Or that he didn't want to get tested, using a none-credible excuse? It was his choice not to fight him when he himself was younger, I'd have prefer the fight to take place a couple of years before, but like I say, he didn't want to be tested. Whose fault is that? Regardless of age, he decided to fight him when he did miles or no miles Floyd was older, two fights away from retirement.

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                    • garfios
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                      #130
                      Originally posted by hugh grant

                      I think more about needles going into veins and blood. Yes, floyd was older.......and?
                      Unbelievable, you're probably one of the guys excusing canelo too, am I right?

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