Who is greater all time: Pac or Duran

[TheProudLunatic]

No clean fighter with nothing to hide would avoid RANDOM blood tests
The end

[NotIron]

and if you asked your opponent to enroll in your fake testing program and he said yes. would you then move the goalposts and say he only gets 40 million no ppv(when hes actually more popular than you) dont think so. floyd was willing to fight guys like marquez and mosley with his fake program but even pac was too dangerous without the ped's.

Well, the first part of your post is retarded because it's not a fake testing programme.

[daggum]

Pac was gung-hoe if the tests were 21+ days in advanced
So there goes your warped AF theory

floyd walked away from the fight when pac called his bluff but you are still in 2009 claiming pac is ducking because he wont take the tests. he agreed to them, floyd walked. what is the point of your argument? are you seriously claiming floyd would have fought pac if pac had simply agreed earlier? why would you think that when we know what happened when he did agree? reality is more important than counter-factuals. floyd walked away. the program wasnt legit anyway so i dont know why you are on floyds side? i dont really understand fandom like this but it sure is interesting.

[NotIron]

maybe because it was a fake drug testing program concocted by mayweather to allow him to cheat with tue's while not allowing his opponent to cheat? i mean thats literally what happened so pacs doubts were warranted. dont know why people are pretending like it was a real program still?

Except it is not that.

You are aware that the UFC, a multi billion dollar company had USADA under go their drug testing procedures for over a decade? Or are your parents related so it's not your fault that you're this stupid?

"Pacquaio's doubts", er buddy, he underwent THE EXACT SAME DRUG TESTING PROCEDURE 5 years later

[daggum]

Wee Pac had the power to call on that "bluff" and what did he do -

and


Care to answer that question ?

he did call it. floyd crapped his pants and changed his demands(again) you only get 40 million and no ppv....when pac was actually more popular and sold more at the time. that is the smoking gun that floyd never wanted teh fight and the ultimate conclusion which proves your argument holds no water.

[daggum]

Except it is not that.

You are aware that the UFC, a multi billion dollar company had USADA under go their drug testing procedures for over a decade? Or are your parents related so it's not your fault that you're this stupid?

"Pacquaio's doubts", er buddy, he underwent THE EXACT SAME DRUG TESTING PROCEDURE 5 years later

floyd got caught cheating. they let him and covered it up. i suggest you read the literature on the subject. it was a program that was setup to allow floyd to cheat through the use of tue's. that is not even up for debate. floyd literally could do anything and you would defend him i suppose. just like a certain orange man. floyd is a cheater. deal with it. do you really think floyd has the personality of an egalitarian that wants "fair fights" i suggest you study human behavior and psychology. he clearly would do anything to win and he did.

[TheProudLunatic]

floyd walked away from the fight when pac called his bluff but .

Link please

[TheProudLunatic]

he did call it. floyd crapped his pants and changed his demands(again)

Link please and try to answer this question....

Would YOU avoid RANDOM BLOOD tests ?

[TheProudLunatic]

A clean fighter -
"You want me to take a BLOOD test every hour ???
LFG !"

[daggum]

wait you guys didnt know pac agreed to no cut off and floyd still didnt take the fight? this explains a lot. thats ok. yeah pac agreed to all of floyds demands and floyd said oh ok well you only get a 40 million flat fee no ppv...for a 500 million fight. you would agree that is a duck right? i thought everyone knew that but some people probably didnt follow the saga. yeah when that happened everyone realized floyd never wanted teh fight. pac called his bluff and floyd changed his demands for what the 4th time? there were some floyd diehards that pretended like pac turning down that sh-it offer was a duck but that held no water. they all acted like you talking about pac should have agreed earlier, when we know what happened when pac agreed. no fight. floyd viciously ran a media attack campaign that fooled a lot of people but facts are he never wanted the fight as showed by him constantly changing his own demands!