David Haye Is Physically Stronger Than Valuev..

[mickey malone]

You don't know what the **** you're talking about, Valuev is over 100 pounds more then him. Strength has nothing to do with muscle at that point when someone outweighs you 100 pounds. Valuev could pick up haye and toss him. I'm pretty muscular at 180 and probably could pick up a 120 person if not more and toss them.

I should have said, Valuev has 'dinner lady' arms..
No way is he stronger than Haye, P4P or otherwise.. I'm confident he won't KO Haye, inspite of his suspect chin.. Valuev's never KO'd anyone at world level, and never will.. Why?... Because he's not strong at the weight, that's why!
He's just an immobile lump, and Haye will overpower him..

[oaklandstephen]

u dont have muscles on ur chin sonny

[gingeralbino]

Muscle tone does not equal strength imo, look at Glenn Ross, id put money on it he is much stronger than Haye.

he's thrown me out of a nightclub. i was 17, and he got beat in the worlds strongest man the week before and i drunkily decided to make fun of him about it. He is a ****ing monster of a man, absolutly huge, we's the width of 3 normal men.

And when Valeuv leans of Haye he wont need strength anyway, his weight alone will wear Haye down if he can tangle him up, which i doubt he will (much)

[AngloArab]

I strongly, strongly disagree.

The sheer weight of Valuev's arms will generate more force than anything Haye has.

That being said, you are right, he doesn't have any muscle tone. Neither did Andre the Giant.

Most footage of Andre is from when he was in his late 30s and early 40s and his doctor had told him he wouldn't reach 40. If you watch his A&E Bio, they show footage of him when he was younger and he was a lot more lean and mobile.

Anyway... Yes, I have NO doubts that Haye is physically stronger than Valuev and would be able to lift more than him and beat him in an armwrestle (armwrestles should be a mandatory part of every weigh-in). Valuev should have immense natural power and he should be able to break through other fighters' guards, but unfortunately, at that size, strength isn't always directly proportional. Look at Hong Man Choi in MMA/K-1. He's as big as Valuev and has a much better physique, yet I've seen him land knees to the face on a guy 5'11" 175lbs and was unable to KO him! Look at Nathan Jones:



His physique was just unreal and he looks invincible. He's 7'0" and his posture and movement was a lot better than that of Valuev, yet he lost in the 1st round of his only MMA fight.

A guy 7'0" fighting a guy 6'0" is just not the same as a guy 6'0" fighting a guy 5'0". If that were the case, no heavyweight would survive the first 3 rounds with Valuev!

Haye by KO or comfortable decision!

[George W Bush]

FACT: If he wanted to, Valuev could be the greatest hockey goalie of all time.

[Benny Leonard]

This is true. Hulk Hogan was pretty much the biggest badass. Also keep in mind that it is wrestling and is fixed.

Fun side-story. Andre the Giant actually allowed Hulk Hogan to win because he liked Hogan and wanted him to succeed him as the champ and main draw.

I don't know why I know this as I have pretty much never watched wrestling in my life.

Andre was also past his prime and Hulk was ****ting himself because he wasn't positive The Giant wouldn't change his mind.

In an article I read a while back, Andre meant so much to Hulk that when Hulk saw a card-board cut out of Andre, he teared up and praised the Man.

Andre was said to be incredibly strong and even athletic (for his size) in his prime but started to wear down because of his health problems.


Good old days of wrestling compared to now. I think I out grew wrestling when I was like 9 though.

[$partacus]

Valuev is stronger than Haye, but Haye hits harder. Strength doesn't = punching power.

[Sam D. Menace]

Going back to Andre the Giant, keep in mind that this has also occurred:

you realise wrestling is fake and the guys let you lift them right?
i'd like to see him pick andre up when he does'nt wanna get picked up or better yet, just holding the position he had on the video

[bojangles1987]

you realise wrestling is fake and the guys let you lift them right?
i'd like to see him pick andre up when he does'nt wanna get picked up or better yet, just holding the position he had on the video

Hogan has said plenty of times exactly that. If Andre did not want to move, he didn't move. Hogan also f****d up his back when he did the slam, he said he tore some muscle in his back really bad. Andre the Giant was ridiculously massive.

[top7gun]

I bet David Haye could lift more weight than Nicolai Valuev..

Valuev has no muscle tone, and I doubt could do more than 10 push ups.. In fact, I'd be confident he couldn't do 5 chin ups..
P4P he is pathetically weak, & will command no respect whatsoever from Haye..

This will be the end of the beast!

i would'nt be surprised though if haye would retire after this, as his head will be decapitated after the fight.