Who is greater all time: Floyd or Usyk?

[AllHailKingFloyd]

King Floyd is greater obviously. Usyk never fought small guys, King Floyd fought big guys like Logan Paul.

[PRINCEKOOL]

I think it still has to be Floyd Mayweather Junior 'forget Undisputed titles, and let's look at each fighters resume on a fight by fight basis. Floyd Mayweather Junior has quite simply beaten the higher number of better fighters than Oleksandr Uysk. And at the end of the day? Titles are great, but beating another great fighter is encapsulated in a more profound why than just complying statistics on a fighters resume'.

Oleksandr Uysk does have two great wins against both Tyson Fury I & II and Anthony Joshua I & II 'but apart from that, his resume is stacked with mediocre fighters at top level. Fighters a million miles outside of their peak like Derek Chisora, or fighters completely dead at the weight like Tony Bellew. Those are all of his hallmark wins outside of beating Tyson Fury and Anthony Joshua'.

Note: Certain folk in the boxing community went into complete hysterics over Uysk's wins against Daniel Dubois I & II 'Dubois had already in reality? Been smashed up before he ever fought Uysk. It was already common knowledge that he was a front runner at top level in the game. Most top level boxers and their teams in my opinion are all well aware of the blue print on how to beat Dubois'.

Beating Daniel Dubois is not all-time great heavyweight win, Dubois in my opinion is the type of fighter who will ether win in spectacular fashion or get beaten in spectacular fashion always. This has been the trajectory of his career up until this point'.

What level of fighter on Floyd Mayweather Junior's resume is the equivalent of Daniel Dubois? That he beat as a Champion? Andre Berto, Vitor Ortiz, Robert Guerrero? When Mayweather beat those fighters easy, nobody was in hysterics. They were just considered solid wins on his resume as a Champion'.

Floyd Mayweather Junior also competed in more formidable and competitive divisions, and was able to each time 'he became the premier champion of those boxing divisions. Mayweather had been a World Champion for 16 years and had successful defended his titles a higher number of times than Oleksandr Usyk'.

Floyd Mayweather Junior had a bigger impact on the game 'all of his fights were by far bigger than Oleksandr Uysk's fights. And just in general his boxing story was more influential I believe within the sport of boxing, amongst actual fighters in the Amateur and professional ranks i.e. how he trained and prepared or fights, and then the showing and display of his game on fight night'.

To conclude: Oleksandr Uysk is a all-time great fighter, and he is the most accomplished active fighter in the entire sport 'his two wins against Tyson Fury and Anthony Joshua, are pound for pound the greatest wins of the past 15 years, and he was the Olympic Champion. But overall in the professional ranks Floyd Mayweather Junior was a World Champion for 16 years, he arguable competed in the second greatest welter weight era of all-times. And he has beaten a higher number superior fighters than 95% of Oleksandr Uysk's resume'.

Floyd Mayweather Junior taking all those factors into consideration 'has to be rated as the greater overall fighter in the professional ranks'.

I have already stated all of this in my first post in this thread, but? Even moving forward in Oleksandr Uysk's career 'one more win here and there on his resume is not going to elevate him above Floyd Mayweather Junior within the professional ranks. Quite simply because the Heavyweight era is in its latter stages, and all the once truly elite fighters have left the game'.

Tyson Fury, Anthony Joshua and Deontay Wilder 'in combination cleared out the Heavyweight Divisions before Uysk entered. Tyson Fury was the first Heavyweight fighter in close to a decade, to breach the Kiltschko occupation of the Heavyweight Division. And then it was Anthony Joshua who took the Heavyweight Divisions into a completely new dynasty, after beating Wladimir Kiltschko in the greatest heavyweight title fight of the past 25 years'.

Maybe if Oleksandr Uysk entered into the heavyweight divisions earlier in his career 'He would have the wins and the overall resume to compete against Floyd Mayweather Junior within the professional ranks. But that is not the case, but for sure Oleksandr Uysk is still an all-time great fighter'.

Floyd Mayweather Junior skill for skill, and on a fight by fight basis 'is just on a different level'.

Note: I did not vote in the poll etc.

[QueensburyRules]

- - Usyk throttles l'l floydy and big floydy easily at the same time...

[Pac=Duran]

So many Floyd sissies seething in this thread lol

[elfag]

Pac s in his 10th weight class, and that's why pac was the best in the world, that's a credit to pac. Pac was past prime though and that he was still so highly rated that's a testament to pac, floyd don't get the glory.
That's why usyk is greater than floyd. Floyd's best win is against somebody he's supposed to beat. Floyd was naturally bigger than pac, and much fresher than pac. Yes, pac continued to do well after loss to floyd, but again that's testament to pac, floyd don't get credit for that. There's a ceiling to how much credit you are going to get for beating someone much smaller and war torn than you!

Floyd and Pac are near the same size. Their weight vs age is very similar.

Floyd was the favorite because he was the best fighter on the planet so he's always going to be the favorite

Floyd DOES get the glory for beating Pac when he was the best fighter on the planet outside of Floyd

Usyk has never beated a p4p 2 like Floyd

Go run their records and see how many each have beaten a top 10 p4p fighter. Usyks only is problem Fury. Meanwhile Floyd probably has 10-12

[hugh grant]

Floyd and Pac are near the same size. Their weight vs age is very similar.

Floyd was the favorite because he was the best fighter on the planet so he's always going to be the favorite

Floyd DOES get the glory for beating Pac when he was the best fighter on the planet outside of Floyd

Usyk has never beated a p4p 2 like Floyd

Go run their records and see how many each have beaten a top 10 p4p fighter. Usyks only is problem Fury. Meanwhile Floyd probably has 10-12

Well, pac was 3inches shorter and started 3 divisions lower. I don't think.Floyd should get more credit for beating pac than bradley did, or horn did. Why you going overboard on giving floyd credit? If bud beat pac at 147, bud would get credit for beating one of the best 147 fighters in the world but not a historically amazing win. There's a ceiling to how.much credit you'd get.
If floyd wanted credit he'd have fought Nel o at 154, and ggg at 160. There's a ceiling to the credit ggg would get for beating floyd, but for floyd sky's the limit

You think usyk beating Tyson fury twice isn't as good as Floyd's controversial win over pac? Your a floyd fanboy so of course you dont

[Gaseous Clay]

So many Floyd sissies seething in this thread lol

Are you still mad he beat pac?

[QueensburyRules]

Are you still mad he beat pac?

- - Manny won the fight, but Vegas crooks had to alter the score cards not to mention granting l'l floydy the all time 2 week backdated TUE to secure the betting odds victory.

Thanks fer the reminder. BS never fails to add to boxing history...yeah!!!

[Gaseous Clay]

- - Manny won the fight, but Vegas crooks had to alter the score cards not to mention granting l'l floydy the all time 2 week backdated TUE to secure the betting odds victory.

Thanks fer the reminder. BS never fails to add to boxing history...yeah!!!

You still mad.

[QueensburyRules]

You still mad.

- - I glad I don't bet on a dirty sport like U...