I don't think the Taylor loss was as bad as it appeared

[damned1974]

because Abraham would have gotten Pavlik out quicker and it is very likely he will do the same to Dirrell and Froch. If Abraham KO's his next two opponents, I don't think Taylor should hold his head down too much over his brutal KO loss.

If you think Kelly would get ko'd against Abraham,you are underestimating him. Jermain battered Abraham's face (even though AA ko'd him-btw-all props to Abraham),and I dread to think what a harder puncher would do.Pavlik would walk Abraham down and punch through his guard.Abraham is a top fighter,make no mistake about it, but Kelly is tops as well (he took a prime UNDEFEATED Taylor out in 7 rounds,whereas it took AA 12 rounds.It also took AA 2 fights with Miranda to score a decent KO-it took Pavlik 7 rounds-if memory serves me correctly). Don't underestimate or count out Kelly just yet...his next fight may elevate his career,as I view Paul Williams as a tougher match-up for Kelly than Abraham...

[bojangles1987]

I don't think Taylor looked good at all. He was losing easily on my scorecard and the only reason he was in the fight at all is because that's just how Abraham is. He makes it look ugly.

[damned1974]

He's got some skills, but between being ko'd by AA, Frock and Pav.......how do you get back on track? I think it was different when guys fought 6, 7, 8 times a year and could just jump back on the horse. 2 or 3 times a year just gives a guy to much time to keep doubting himself. Just my opinion, of course.

That is a valid opinion,but I really think Taylor cannot persevere through a host of problems he has throuout his career.He is too tense and nervous in the ring, and at times fights like he is just keeping his opponent off of him instead of trying to find ways to get rid of his opponent.To be fair,he plagues himself by going in against the BIGGEST punchers in his division (but I respect him for facing the toughest competition for him) and he just has zilch success with them-hell,even Lacy knocked him down-it was ruled a slip,but you look at it and tell me that wasn't a punch!
Skillwise and technical ability,he is tops,but his problems block him from going back to champion status.I wish him all the best whatever he decides,he is a talented and honourable guy.

[damned1974]

I don't think Taylor looked good at all. He was losing easily on my scorecard and the only reason he was in the fight at all is because that's just how Abraham is. He makes it look ugly.

I wouldn't say Abraham makes his fights look ugly,but he gives a lot of oppurtunity for the right person-he has his guard up for at least half the round.I think Pavlik would have an easier time (not an easy one) with Arthur than with Paul Williams.It sounds funny,but if you look at thier styles,it makes sense-they are both there to be hit and I wonder if Abraham can fight non-stop against someone with a good workrate, because he holds that guard patiently for too much of the rounds...perhaps thats just him being tactical...who knows.

[El_Cholo]

I might be the only one who thinks this. But I believe Dirrell will give AA problems with his height and speed. I doubt he gets KO either. Not saying he will win.

Dirrell will beat him because he will be on his bike all night scared to get hit.

[damned1974]

Dirrell will beat him because he will be on his bike all night scared to get hit.

Hell-I would fight that way if I was him-it's the only way his style will get past Abraham.Dirrell is fast as a cat,if he could step to the side and pound hooks into Abrahams temples,he could find success-the problem is,he may need to bring a sledgehammer-lol
btw-I had Dirrell beatting Froch comfortably....He is a damn fine up and comer, just give him a few years-he's still very young and has the balls to go against these seasoned beasts.

[Spray_resistant]

I wouldn't say he's done, but his confidence has to be shattered at this point.

Without confidence I am convinced you are done as a professional fighter.

[Mr. Philadel]

JT is done!!!.....haven't seen the fight on TV yet but I was there live.....and from what I saw without commentary to help influence my thoughts....JT is done!!....his jab tapped and didnt snap......he looked flat....didnt throw too many right hands.......fought a spirited fight but the FIGHT in this WARRIOR was beat out a while ago!!.....shame!!

[El_Cholo]

Hell-I would fight that way if I was him-it's the only way his style will get past Abraham.Dirrell is fast as a cat,if he could step to the side and pound hooks into Abrahams temples,he could find success-the problem is,he may need to bring a sledgehammer-lol
btw-I had Dirrell beatting Froch comfortably....He is a damn fine up and comer, just give him a few years-he's still very young and has the balls to go against these seasoned beasts.

if he beats the likes of Kessler or Abraham convincingly and in the manner that you suggest then I may take to him.

at the minute all I saw was a man content to jab and run.

as the commentator said after the fight "to take a world title not only do you have to win, but you have to win big"

[damned1974]

if he beats the likes of Kessler or Abraham convincingly and in the manner that you suggest then I may take to him.

at the minute all I saw was a man content to jab and run.

as the commentator said after the fight "to take a world title not only do you have to win, but you have to win big"

I understand your perspective,but don't you think as the champion,you have to show proof of reason as to why you are and should remain champion? If the "champ" is getting outclassed,he should lose the belt.
All you seen was a man happy to jab and run( Dirrell),but he did land some combos whereas Froch threw mostly air punches-how do you reward the champ who landed less punches and couldn't find a way to skillfully beat a novice? I did watch the fight with Bunce and other British commentery,and found it funny that they believed Dirrell to win,then after the decision they did a 180 and said '"you have to win big,etc"
My take is-fighters should be rewarded on controlled and effective aggression, Froch moved forward,swung wild and missed most punches,played into Dirrell's style which left him frustrated,only landed a few punches and even at one point got hurt by Dirrell.Dirrell was able to impose his fight on Froch (it may not be exciting,but its his style),dodge Froch at will,and dictate the pace (moving forwards should make no difference in scoring-its punches)...