Good take on Mayweather

[MoneyMay1]

Based on what? What solid evidence do you present supporting your claim?

Nevermind, I forgot. There is no evidence. You say that because you like Pac more. I think this argument has came up on here before. 6 time world champion in 5 different weight classes. P4P longer, never been stopped or knocked down (Unless you think taking a knee when a punch didn't land because your hand hurts a KD), never been really rocked (unless you think Corley rocked him.. I don't).

Pac may be better. I doubt it, but it's possible. He needs a few more feathers in his hat before the World believes it though.

[BoxingChaos]

Hey, I saw this guy giving his two cents on Mayweather, he's right on point.

All I heard was big fat butterball head mofo sucking on Floyd's **** because he went 12 rounds with a midget who was forced to move up nearly three weight divisions in a blink of an eye. Some one tell this fat phuker to get off Floyd's ****. The only reason he will never see Floyd get beat is because Floyd isn't fighting anyone that is a threat. You fools keep talking about Pacquaio like this is a done deal. Pacquiao has yet to beat Cotto which I doubt he will. What is Funky ass Floyd gonna do with out Pacquiao? How many more midgets, bums and old men will Floyd fight before he thinks about fighting a real Welter Weight? The answer is never and yet the ***** continues to campaign as a welter weight, no one sees anything wrong with this picture? That is like Floyd being a member of the men with 12 inch nuts and floyd only has 3" nuts. Get the phuk out here with that meat head glorifying a fraud.

[jrosales13]

Of course Pac KO'd Hatton quicker than Floyd. Pac is supposed to! That's his style! How do I get that through your head? Floyd is a boxer, Pac is a puncher. Why did Foreman get rid of Frazier quicker than Ali? Because Foreman is better than Ali? I think not.

This is a very good point.

[jrosales13]

6 time world champion in 5 different weight classes.

Pac is a 6 time world titlest in 6 different weightclass. Pac has won 4 World Linial Championships in 4 different weightclass. That is something that has never been done in over a 100yrs of boxing. Think about that? Pac has accomplish something that has never been done ever.

P4P longer,

This does not matter. P4P is a mythical ranking. Is all an opinion.

never been stopped or knocked down

Again this does not matter. Maciano has never been stopped. Is he better than Joe Louis? No. David Tua never been stopped is he better than Wladimir Klitlschko? No. Vitaly Klitschko never been knocked down is he better than Larry Holmes or Lennox Lewis? I think not.

He needs a few more feathers in his hat before the World believes it though.

I honestly think both fighters do. Pac needs to prove his spot. While Floyd is living off what he did at 130, which he didn't cleanout, and his 2 figths with Castillo.

The difference is one fighter is trying to prove it (Pac) While the other is content with fighting the lesser as long as it is the most money (Mayweather). Now there is nothing wrong with getting your money. I probably would do the same thing. By all means get. However, don't tell me how great you are cuz of what over 6yrs ago.

[C.Y.]

He needs to fight SSM and the Pac-Cotto winner next yr. Period.

Its obvious he will, hopefully Pac/Cotto before Mosely because Mosley blew his chances..

i think you are the biggest Mayweather fan on this site.

[MoneyMay1]

Pac is a 6 time world titlest in 6 different weightclass. Pac has won 4 World Linial Championships in 4 different weightclass. That is something that has never been done in over a 100yrs of boxing. Think about that? Pac has accomplish something that has never been done ever.



This does not matter. P4P is a mythical ranking. Is all an opinion.



Again this does not matter. Maciano has never been stopped. Is he better than Joe Louis? No. David Tua never been stopped is he better than Wladimir Klitlschko? No. Vitaly Klitschko never been knocked down is he better than Larry Holmes or Lennox Lewis? I think not.



I honestly think both fighters do. Pac needs to prove his spot. While Floyd is living off what he did at 130, which he didn't cleanout, and his 2 figths with Castillo.

The difference is one fighter is trying to prove it (Pac) While the other is content with fighting the lesser as long as it is the most money (Mayweather). Now there is nothing wrong with getting your money. I probably would do the same thing. By all means get. However, don't tell me how great you are cuz of what over 6yrs ago.

6 time world champion in 6 different weight classes? Ok. How many vacant titles has Pac won? How many titles has Pac won against the likes of David (not Juan) Diaz?

How many titles has Pac lost? I understand styles make fights but Marquez didn't win 1 round against Floyd. Floyd made Marquez look like Baldomir. Pac is trying to prove he's the best Welterweight? Is that why even his trainer calls his next opponent "damaged goods?" That's why Pac didn't fight Shane instead? Your arguments don't hold water.

[TEXSTRO]

Yall mayweather nuthuggers talk about him like al bundy talked about his high school playing days..Talking about what he did at 130...So who cares!!! Hes not fighting at 130 anymore!! Lets talk about what he cleans up now? Nothing but the but the vlown up lightweight bin..Then not even respect the sport enough to come in weight. Yall he was spot on....Spot on his nuts....I still think Mayweather has great skills hands down...But for what if hes not fighting legit welters.

[jrosales13]

6 time world champion in 6 different weight classes? Ok.

So you agree with this right?

How many vacant titles has Pac won?

How many world of the world titles that Pac won were vacant? Is that what you are asking me? If so NONE. What was the reason for that question?

QUOTE=MoneyMay1;6406081]How many titles has Pac won against the likes of David (not Juan) Diaz?

Just one against David Diaz. And, say what you want about Diaz and his limited skills. But, he was more of world titlest than what Zab was.

How many titles has Pac lost?.

Once and that was little bit over 10 yrs ago. This question right here made you own me. Is no way in hell Pac is better than Floyd cuz he lossed a world title 10yrs ago. What was I thinking?

I understand styles make fights but Marquez didn't win 1 round against Floyd. Floyd made Marquez look like Baldomir.

Marquez is not a WW. Mike Jones would make JMM look lie Baldomir. Cintron would kill JMM. Soto Karrass would beat JMM at WW. JMM would be lucky to win 4 rds against Delvin Rodrigues at WW. Honestly bro name one top 20 WW that JMM could beat at WW?

Pac is trying to prove he's the best Welterweight? Is that why even his trainer calls his next opponent "damaged goods?" That's why Pac didn't fight Shane instead? Your arguments don't hold water.

Well some Floyd fans have Cotto #1 WW. I myself have Shane and Cotto #2. And, at worse Cotto is #3. So yes he atleast he is trying to prove it. How does my argument not hold water?

I never said Pac was better. I said both fighters need to prove it.

[MoneyMay1]

So you agree with this right?



How many world of the world titles that Pac won were vacant? Is that what you are asking me? If so NONE. What was the reason for that question?

QUOTE=MoneyMay1;6406081]How many titles has Pac won against the likes of David (not Juan) Diaz?

Just one against David Diaz. And, say what you want about Diaz and his limited skills. But, he was more of world titlest than what Zab was.



Once and that was little bit over 10 yrs ago. This question right here made you own me. Is no way in hell Pac is better than Floyd cuz he lossed a world title 10yrs ago. What was I thinking?



Marquez is not a WW. Mike Jones would make JMM look lie Baldomir. Cintron would kill JMM. Soto Karrass would beat JMM at WW. JMM would be lucky to win 4 rds against Delvin Rodrigues at WW. Honestly bro name one top 20 WW that JMM could beat at WW?



Well some Floyd fans have Cotto #1 WW. I myself have Shane and Cotto #2. And, at worse Cotto is #3. So yes he atleast he is trying to prove it. How does my argument not hold water?

I never said Pac was better. I said both fighters need to prove it.

I know. I apologize if I came across as disrespectful. After taking a second look at the dialogue, I was a smartass and I'm sorry. You commended me for making a good point with the Ali/Foreman/Frazier analogy, and I appreciate that.

Listen, the thing that bothers me is before the Marquez fight, the question being asked was: Why is Floyd fighting Marquez his first fight back? He could have taken an easier route here and still made the same amount of money.

Truth be told, none of us knew what Marquez was going to look like at WW before he fought Floyd. It wasn't until after Floyd handled him easily that people figured out that JMM wasn't really a threat at that weight to begin with.

Yes, I am not dis*****g that Pacquiao has won 6 world championships, I can't. It's the truth. I'm not dis*****g that David Diaz was more of a legitimate champion than Zab either. I will argue that Diaz has nowhere near the ring presence as Zab, and was nowhere near the threat to Pac as Zab was to Floyd. Many observers (including myself) noted Zab to be the heavier puncher, relatively equal handspeed, and even faster afoot than Floyd. David Diaz had none of these advantages fighting Pac.

I'm just saying, as of right now, you can't say that Pac is a better WW than Floyd. He has not shown that. And although Floyd's WW resume is not exactly a "who's who" of the division, he does have more experience at this weight and has beaten the guy that knocked out Cory Spinks. Hell even Jermain Taylor couldn't KO Spinks. I'm not saying that Pac was not, or is not a hell of a fighter. What I'm saying is until he at least beats Cotto, he has not shown anything in this division that would make me say "He is a better WW than Floyd.) Even if he were to beat Cotto on points, you could say that right there Pac fought a better WW than Floyd has ever fought, and you'd be right. As of now, I think it's premature to state that. Until Pac beats Cotto or ANY legitimate strong WW, you have to give Floyd the benefit of the doubt.