Valuev vs Haye, Over 100 lbs weight differrence. No way Haye can win right?

[The_Visitation]

If Cotto is to big for Pac and PBF was to big for JMM

Then certainly Valuev is to big for Haye. You be a fool to think Haye has a chance of beating someone 7 inches taller and 100 lbs bigger.

You can't compare the divisions. The main difference is in speed; PBF and (probably) Cotto were/are at no disadvantage due to size alone, although I think Pac is naturally faster than Cotto.

Valuev, although his skills are underrated (he has good defense and a great jab), is sloooww.... you have to be when that size. For a HW, even a bulked-up Haye is unusually fast and to win he just has to do what Holyfield did, only using his superior speed to land more punches. If they have to be on Valuev's gut, that's fine. It should be comfortable unless he gets careless too often. Valuev is bound to wobble him at some stage, he needs to keep together enough to take to his heels long enough to recover.

Haye by reasonably close UD. With the lil' guys, Pacquiao over Cotto as, stature or not, he is IMHO faster, more skillful and ****s pretty much as hard. Mayweather is simply a better fighter than JMM, size had little to do with it. He and Pacquiao are a class above all the rest; and I'd sell the cat and mortgage the wife for a ticket to see a fight between the two of them; legendary stuff.

[Kalion]

You can't compare the divisions. The main difference is in speed; PBF and (probably) Cotto were/are at no disadvantage due to size alone, although I think Pac is naturally faster than Cotto.

Valuev, although his skills are underrated (he has good defense and a great jab), is sloooww.... you have to be when that size. For a HW, even a bulked-up Haye is unusually fast and to win he just has to do what Holyfield did, only using his superior speed to land more punches. If they have to be on Valuev's gut, that's fine. It should be comfortable unless he gets careless too often. Valuev is bound to wobble him at some stage, he needs to keep together enough to take to his heels long enough to recover.

Haye by reasonably close UD. With the lil' guys, Pacquiao over Cotto as, stature or not, he is IMHO faster, more skillful and ****s pretty much as hard. Mayweather is simply a better fighter than JMM, size had little to do with it. He and Pacquiao are a class above all the rest; and I'd sell the cat and mortgage the wife for a ticket to see a fight between the two of them; legendary stuff.

Thats my point. If size mattered as much as some try to make it, Valuev would be an ATG and the undisputed champ. Skills>Size. If cotto beats pac its not because he was bigger,its because he was the better fighter. Same with Pbf and JMM.

[Mersey]

Chagaev is smaller than Haye and weighs a few lbs heavier, Chagaev beat Valuev, so why not Haye?

[El Angel]

So if Cotto domoinates PAC, youll acredit it to Cotto skills being to much for PAC and not him being "to big"

Yes I will. Whoever wins that fight is the better man, size has nothing to do with it. The size difference isn't that big. Whoever has the better skills wins this fight.

[Jim Jeffries]

Well he had 95 lbs on Holyfield, and 11 years.

Honestly, I can't see any way that Haye loses this fight.

[Rosseboi]

If Cotto is to big for Pac and PBF was to big for JMM

Then certainly Valuev is to big for Haye. You be a fool to think Haye has a chance of beating someone 7 inches taller and 100 lbs bigger.

Not wise wearing a turtles Hoodie there mate but I agree 100% lol. Valuev is so much heavier than Haye he can literally punch through his guard

[catalinul]

Chagaev is smaller than Haye and weighs a few lbs heavier, Chagaev beat Valuev, so why not Haye?

Many reasons.

Tactical discipline,gameplan,styles,etc.

Not saying Valuev will win but it's not like that easy.

[Joey123]

Chagaev has a more solid chn,defense and genral skills than Haye though.

Ye that solid defense that we saw when he thought Vlad.

[J.Dempsey]

if hayes stamina in check i see this one goin UD to haye, he'll be fighting for his life in there tho ;D