Comments Thread For: Judge Tom Schreck: But How Do You Really Score a Round?

[JeBron Lamez]

Logic must prevail

“How we live is so different from how we ought to live that he who studies what ought to be done rather than what is done will learn the way to his downfall rather than to his preservation.”

― Niccolo Machiavelli, 'The Prince' (1532)

[TheProudLunatic]

“How we live is so different from how we ought to live that he who studies what ought to be done rather than what is done will learn the way to his downfall rather than to his preservation.”

― Niccolo Machiavelli, 'The Prince' (1532)

Oooooooooooook .........

Boxing is far from philosophical
It's barely a sport.

Not all KD's are the same

[JeBron Lamez]

Boxing is far from philosophical

Bruh.

[TheProudLunatic]

Bruh.

If that's the case, everything is philosophical.
Logic should prevail
Even if it means having deep thoughts

[JeBron Lamez]

Not all KD's are the same

In scoring terms, they are though.

[TheProudLunatic]

In scoring terms, they are though.

But in actuality, they're not.

[JeBron Lamez]

Boxing is far from philosophical

The 2010 New York Times would like a word:

https://archive.nytimes.com/opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/09/15/boxing-lessons/

[CornerCutman]

“How we live is so different from how we ought to live that he who studies what ought to be done rather than what is done will learn the way to his downfall rather than to his preservation.”

― Niccolo Machiavelli, 'The Prince' (1532)

To this point, I think a knockdown should not automatically "undo" an entire round's body of work. But, the reality in boxing is that any additional subjectivity will only increase the corruption and nonsense, so for that reason I unfortunately do think that even if a guy slips, it should be 10-8. I mean just look a couple of weeks ago when Gervonta Davis literally takes a timeout and somehow there's no KD.

[JeBron Lamez]

I unfortunately do think that even if a guy slips, it should be 10-8. I mean just look a couple of weeks ago when Gervonta Davis literally takes a timeout and somehow there's no KD.

The Gervonta thing is not especially relevant here because that was merely an example of the rules being improperly enforced. He got knocked down & the ref ruled it a slip, that's a skill issue with one ref which (theoretically!) is an easier problem to deal with than switching to a system of ruling all slips as knockdowns.

I'm not necessarily a lover or defender of the 10-8 rule, although it certainly doesn't offend me but there's a key point in your assertion that:

I think a knockdown should not automatically "undo" an entire round's body of work.

It's a point that was made earlier by @SteveM & myself when we established that a KD only undoes the round's work in scoring terms (& only then if it goes unanswered).

This opens up an aspect of boxing which can make the latter rounds of a close fight genuinely thrilling & suspenseful, e.g. when a guy who's behind having been knocked down is chasing the KO and the other guy's desperately trying to survive so he can reap the potential rewards of his earlier KD.

I guess low key I'm a fan of the possibility that a guy can lose the physical fight yet win the boxing match, according to the rules.