Who had the better career at Welterweight: Pacquiao or Crawford?

[The Big Dunn]

In 2010 he agreed to ost up to 14 days. When IllegalIvWeather moved the goalposts to zero that halted everything.

Thats documented.

Yes it’s documented Floyd took it off the table and the. manny fake accepted because he looked like a PED user in the media.

He and Bob tried to save face but it was too late. Fans started to look at Manny like the cheater he was.

You can defend him all you want. He did it to himself by not just accepting the offer immediately and trying to negotiate a cutoff date.

Hold Manny accountable for his actions.

[The Big Dunn]

Lol. Whole world says Crawford's resume is thin, but ol capt. Sav a ho Dunn gonna will it otherwise

The whole world doesn’t say that about his ww resume, which is what the thread is about.

Stay on topic. Stop pivoting and diverting to something else.

I made no comments about Crawford’s resume in this thread outside of his ww resume.

You keep trying but Crawford unified at ww, Manny didn’t. That is the ultimate accomplishment in any weight class. You can’t diminish it.

[djtmal]

Only reason Pacquiao fought him was cause he looked bad in a tuneup fight

It was between that and Danny Garcia and they chose Thurman cause he looked worse.

I disagree with that. I saw that fight. Thurman got clipped one time but otherwise was in control, and when did Manny cherrypick easy fights. He and Thurman was far more competitive than most title fights. Thurman is a far more active fighter than Garcia

[The Big Dunn]

Crawford winning this poll is like when Jordan got voted best college player over Kareem.

It is mostly the casuals with a lesser knowledge that vote on name value above accomplishments.

MJ may be the best NBA player of all time. He surely isn’t the best college or HS player. Casual fans don’t understand that.

Manny has the better career and more name value in his ww resume. But Crawford has the best ww accomplishment. Unifying the division against the #1 ranked ww, at the time a top 5 p4p, undefeated champion, deserves to be acknowledged.

[djtmal]

We’re talking about the decision Manny made.

Well he agreed to cutoff up to 14days in 2010

Floyd kept moving the goalposts

The 40 million offer that was bogus nobody believes Floyd has 40 million in the bank

[The Big Dunn]

I disagree with that. I saw that fight. Thurman got clipped one time but otherwise was in control, and when did Manny cherrypick easy fights. He and Thurman was far more competitive than most title fights. Thurman is a far more active fighter than Garcia

JMM 4 instead of Floyd.

Clottey instead of Floyd.

Horn, Matthysse Thurman and Broner instead of Crawford.

[The Big Dunn]

Well he agreed to cutoff up to 14days in 2010

Floyd kept moving the goalposts

The 40 million offer that was bogus nobody believes Floyd has 40 million in the bank

Every time Manny ducks you make up an excuse.

Manny didn’t agree immediately. He waited until it was off the table to try and save face.

Then call him on it to see if it’s bogus and he had the money. That is a weak and idiotic excuse.

He was just scared to lose. You just can’t admit it.

[djtmal]

He turned it down because he was scared to lose. Stop making excuses for Manny ducking.

Lol. I highly doubt that. It's not like Floyd hit like Tommy Hearns.

He needed two free shots on a fighter with his hands down

[djtmal]

Manny turned the fight down. He accepted only after Floyd took the offer off the table.

Floyd moved the goalposts. When Manny accepts the new terms, Floyd moved them again.

[djtmal]

Instead of you holding him accountable for his decisions you want to blame Floyd like Floyd had his hand up Manny’s ass and controlled him like a simpleton 3rd world puppet.

Floyd was scared. Risk was too high in 2010 about 50%

When the risk was around 30% he made the fight