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  • I realize many of us long time posters didn't realize it then because we were younger but you start to lose alot in terms of athletic ability at 35 or so. That is what happened here everyone is probably on PEDs if they're making enough money.

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    • Originally posted by MalevolentBite View Post

      I didn't know he had a personal history of not likening Manny. But I think he felt he played second fittle to Manny at Top Rank and Bob wouldn't let Crawford school him in the ring IMO. Still never understood why Crawford and Bradley never fought.
      Buds just jealous a 40 year old pac was going to beat him to taking spence zero first. Lucky spence pulled out. Bud angry pac made him look bad with taking 5 years to fight spence

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      • Originally posted by djtmal View Post

        Yeah right Floyd was ducking Manny like the plague.

        After that nothing rematch with Madonna, you can tell Floyd was pressed about making a Manny fight.
        Your God will forever reside beneath May's shadow.
        Maidana > HORN, doe
        I love these May/Pac "debates" !!!!!

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        • Originally posted by hugh grant View Post

          Buds just jealous a 40 year old pac was going to beat him to taking spence zero first. Lucky spence pulled out. Bud angry pac made him look bad with taking 5 years to fight spence
          Pac couldn't get past Basic AF Ugas !!!!!!!!
          But talking is much better than doing in the eyes of a Pac fiend

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          • Originally posted by YOU WILL LOSE View Post
            he should also talk about how floyd tested positive before the pac fight and HIS CAREER STOPPED just two fights later. meanwhile manny fought for years afterward
            Tested positive for what ???
            Please post the link

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            • Originally posted by Roadblock View Post

              Floyd agreed to everything Manny walked, .
              Floyd kept moving the goalposts on blood testing cutoff. When Manny agreed to 14 days, Floyd wanted 0 cutoff, killing the negotiations

              Floyd didn’t didn’t want to fight Manny in 2009-2010.

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              • Originally posted by TheProudLunatic View Post

                Pac couldn't get past Basic AF Ugas !!!!!!!!
                But talking is much better than doing in the eyes of a Pac fiend
                A last minute change of opponent disrupts you, but we know ugas wanted pac a long time. Pac would've best spence. Certainly would've fought spence before bud did

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                • Originally posted by djtmal View Post

                  Floyd kept moving the goalposts on blood testing cutoff. When Manny agreed to 14 days, Floyd wanted 0 cutoff, killing the negotiations

                  Floyd didn’t didn’t want to fight Manny in 2009-2010.
                  Cott o said floyd ducked pac for 6 years as floyd knew pac would ko him.

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                  • Originally posted by hugh grant View Post

                    A last minute change of opponent disrupts you, but we know ugas wanted pac a long time. Pac would've best spence. Certainly would've fought spence before bud did
                    Whatever became of Ugas ????

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                    • Originally posted by hugh grant View Post

                      Cott o said floyd ducked pac for 6 years as floyd knew pac would ko him.
                      Cotto said Pac was a bltch for not fighting him w/o a clause !

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