Comments Thread For: Everything we know so far about the new TKO boxing league - from payments to potential problems

[MulaKO]

Well "I heard" that Bob and TR were talking to Amazon.
Yes Osacr is still at Dazn on a fight by fight basis and Oscar is all over the internet complaining how he basically knows Turki is trying to screw him.
And I posted a list of all the cross promotional fights that have been made since 2018. I guess you missed that one. I believe it was PBC sending about ten fighters to other networks. Top rank sent maybe two and Dazn sent ZERO. I just destroyed that argument real quick. Let me see if I can remember some off the top of my dome.....

Lmfao
Amazon is about to drop PBC is what I heard
Netflix is just starting g to wet their beaks
Oscar is pissed at Turki and has absolutely nothing to do with Dazn
And yeah PBC with all the fiasco to try to keep a
belt ( Spence vs Bud ) and will only do cross promotional when it suits them

[fistandfury]

There is no getting around the fact that top to middle level boxers will never sign away 3 years for BS money, even when these projected "younger fighters" come of age, they will bounce for boxing money, this is UFC money. A super weak paycheck so two megalomaniacs can rule boxing? Lol, this will NEVER work.

[DClefthook]

I'm a black Brit & Haymon's given me enough reasons to dislike his methods, obviously I don't know what anyone else's motivation is to hate him & we KNOW the racists hate him because that's what they do.

Same with Don King (of course Haymon isn't nearly as hated); sure the bigots hated him for being a black winner but he gave us plenty of legit reasons to dislike his methods, too.

I'm sorry but I would really love to hear your reason as to why you dislike Haymon when once again Top Rank is being sued for 25 million dollar breach of contract because their co-CEO (Todd) didn't tell their CEO (Bob) about the side deal he had with the mob boss Daniel Kinahan. Yes the same Daniel Kinahan that comes from your neck of the woods that is currently in Dubai hiding from the FBI. So why do you "dislike" Haymon again. The same Haymon that is not only loved and respected by his fighters but has never been sued by any of them. Again, please enlighten me!!!

[JeBron Lamez]

I for the life of me have no idea what you being a "black Brit" has anything to do with you disliking Al Haymon for his methods. What methods has he done that has prevented anything from any promoter in the UK from giving you the fights that you want over there. Please enlighten me!

Nah bro, I fox wiv most of your talking points but the point I was making is that there are plenty of reasons other than racism for a boxing fan to dislike Haymon & as a London nyukka I am fully qualified to state this fact.

[JeBron Lamez]

I'm sorry but I would really love to hear your reason as to why you dislike Haymon when once again Top Rank is being sued for 25 million dollar breach of contract because their co-CEO (Todd) didn't tell their CEO (Bob) about the side deal he had with the mob boss Daniel Kinahan. Yes the same Daniel Kinahan that comes from your neck of the woods that is currently in Dubai hiding from the FBI. So why do you "dislike" Haymon again. The same Haymon that is not only loved and respected by his fighters but has never been sued by any of them. Again, please enlighten me!!!

Just because a black magnate takes care of his employees does not mean he takes proper care of the consumers of his product.

This is a distinction which can admittedly be uncomfortable for us to make in public (for "in public", read "in front of other people ahem"), but it is true.

Al's approach to boxing business is one of the not insignificant factors in the direction boxing has taken. Sure, Covid created lanes & ramifications that no-one saw coming but the particular brand of politics played by Haymon (yes, I know he's not the only one & that others in his position would do the same) is a YUUUUGE reason why a guy like Alalshikh could come & do what he's done thus far.

Ijs.

[DClefthook]

There is no getting around the fact that top to middle level boxers will never sign away 3 years for BS money, even when these projected "younger fighters" come of age, they will bounce for boxing money, this is UFC money. A super weak paycheck so two megalomaniacs can rule boxing? Lol, this will NEVER work.

100% correct my friend!

[DClefthook]

Nah bro, I fox wiv most of your talking points but the point I was making is that there are plenty of reasons other than racism for a boxing fan to dislike Haymon & as a London nyukka I am fully qualified to state this fact.

I hear you. I just want to know why no smoke for other en****** when they are clearly harming boxing because they are constantly being sued??

[DClefthook]

Lmfao
Amazon is about to drop PBC is what I heard
Netflix is just starting g to wet their beaks
Oscar is pissed at Turki and has absolutely nothing to do with Dazn
And yeah PBC with all the fiasco to try to keep a
belt ( Spence vs Bud ) and will only do cross promotional when it suits them

NEWSFLASH: every promo company will only do cross promotional business when it suits them. Whether refusing to send a fighter with 3 belts (Spence) across the street to the fighter with one belt (Bud) or ....allowing a fighter with no belts (Victol Postol) to cross the street to fight a fighter with two belts (Jose Ramirez) in hopes of bringing the belts back home. They all do it. Bob Arum and Don King started the "side of the street business" and now Oscar, Al, Eddie and Frank are just carrying on the tradition

[fistandfury]

100% correct my friend!

My friend, I asked Chat GPT if it agreed with me that Dana White's "league" has a 1% chance of taking over boxing, here is what she spit out, her words, not mine!

Conclusion: A 1% Chance


Given the glaring financial disparity, the entrenched power of established promoters and networks, and the deep cultural and structural differences between boxing and MMA, I would also estimate that Dana White’s new boxing league has a 1% chance of making a meaningful, lasting impact in terms of completely disrupting the boxing industry. The math, as you pointed out, doesn’t add up.

White would need to overcome an immense amount of resistance from established players in the sport, and even with significant financial backing from Saudi Arabia, it’s hard to see how the new league can offer enough incentives to replace the current system without major pushback from both fighters and promoters.

While there is certainly potential for a new league to carve out a niche or attract a portion of the talent, taking over boxing and forcing the current power players to change how they do business would require far more than just money—it would need to be a cultural, promotional, and structural revolution that aligns with the interests of fighters, promoters, and fans alike. And at this point, that doesn’t seem likely.

[DClefthook]

Nah bro, I fox wiv most of your talking points but the point I was making is that there are plenty of reasons other than racism for a boxing fan to dislike Haymon & as a London nyukka I am fully qualified to state this fact.

Look BronBron ultimately you, me and little Bronny are all on the same "side of the street" wink wink. It's just a lil different for us "nyukkas" over here in the states because we have a tradition of fighting these folks for every single dollar that we think is ours. We ain't settling for shyte. That's why it seems like we rally around Haymon not just for the color of his skin because he know if he doesn't get support from us then they will try and run all over him. Don't think we are the ones who use race for everything. no sir! It is the people who created laws against us that used race for everything that we had to fight for about 200 years now to try and even the playing field. Just because they don't actually use the word WHITE anymore they don't have to because it's built into the systems. If Anthony Joshua retires and decides to push Sparta Promotions to be competitive with the other UK promoters then I suggest you guys better get behind him and be supportive because he's going to need it. And all that BS about England doesn't have any bias beliefs wait and see what happens when the new black kid on the block goes against the OLD GAURD EMPIRE watch what happens! ha