Comments Thread For: With Errol Spence Jnr out, Sebastian Fundora to turn to others and likely March 29 date

[Groin Grabber]

Terrance Crawford stated the fight got done when he contacted Spence directly. He stated this on youtube when interviewed. So now you are calling Crawford an lair ?

2. Send the link where PBC promoted the fight either on their official Twitter, Instagram or youtube. They never even tried to promote the "fight" the only ones talking about it was fundora and his promoter. Spence was never speaking with Al lol. From any point when Spence entered the ring with fundora. Pbc never stated that fight was official. It was just talking.

So the fight got done over the phone? Lmfao I believe bud meant they verbally agreed to it over the phone and that's about it.

If you think any pbc guys have a legit promoter and not a puppet used by al then you're delusional. The fight was never official as youve said so why promote it?

[MalevolentBite]

From my knowledge of this situation , Bud signed for one fight and of course there was the rematch clause also
Yes your absolutely right , the plan was for Spence to win and fight Canelo
For obvious reasons that didn’t happen
But from my knowledge this is you assuming things
Lots of fighters have talked openly about the communication problem with Uncle Al only to then continue fighting under his banner
No offence but seems like your assuming a whole lot when in fact this is usual business at PBC

Fair. That's fine. We can meet in the middle.

But I will stay this. IF Spence comes back. He will be on the b side of an non PBC card. I think we will not see on a pbc amazon card.

[MulaKO]

I am not debating my theory because I don't know Al personally but if the fighter really wants a fight a boxing advisor can not stop him from fighting but an advisor can advisor someone not to do something. Obviously if Crawford was hitting road blocks with Spence team and he had to reach out to Spence himself, that let's you know some people within his camp probably didn't want Spence to fight Crawford at that time or at that weight because they knew he was going go lose. If Spence was your cash cow and he got beat down on a major card how can you recoup your losses if Crawford is not signed to PBC? I hope you know pbc wanted Crawford to sign with them for the fight. That was one of the roadblocks because that's same thing that Don King does he signs box fighters to his company when he promoted big fights because no matter who wins he wins because he can now promote the winner. Spence losing left PBC with nothing besides Tank. There was also plans in place for Spence to fight canelo. Go look at old videos where Spence stated he wanted to move up to fight canelo. Go on youtube and watch videos where canelo was offered a Spence fight when he was under pbc. If I was Al. I would be pissed at Spence too because PBC rather do in house fights and Crawford not being in house hurt them. Which would explain Spence and pbc not really interacting.

From my knowledge of this situation , Bud signed for one fight and of course there was the rematch clause also
Yes your absolutely right , the plan was for Spence to win and fight Canelo
For obvious reasons that didn’t happen
But from my knowledge this is you assuming things
Lots of fighters have talked openly about the communication problem with Uncle Al only to then continue fighting under his banner
No offence but seems like your assuming a whole lot when in fact this is usual business at PBC

[MalevolentBite]

Ok so your assuming everything
From people in the business I’ve never heard anything like problems or what not
Yes I do recall the phone call but that was two men discussing are we gonna do this or not , nothing more nothing less
Then their promotional teams took over to finalize

I am not debating my theory because I don't know Al personally but if the fighter really wants a fight a boxing advisor can not stop him from fighting but an advisor can advisor someone not to do something. Obviously if Crawford was hitting road blocks with Spence team and he had to reach out to Spence himself, that let's you know some people within his camp probably didn't want Spence to fight Crawford at that time or at that weight because they knew he was going go lose. If Spence was your cash cow and he got beat down on a major card how can you recoup your losses if Crawford is not signed to PBC? I hope you know pbc wanted Crawford to sign with them for the fight. That was one of the roadblocks because that's same thing that Don King does he signs box fighters to his company when he promoted big fights because no matter who wins he wins because he can now promote the winner. Spence losing left PBC with nothing besides Tank. There was also plans in place for Spence to fight canelo. Go look at old videos where Spence stated he wanted to move up to fight canelo. Go on youtube and watch videos where canelo was offered a Spence fight when he was under pbc. If I was Al. I would be pissed at Spence too because PBC rather do in house fights and Crawford not being in house hurt them. Which would explain Spence and pbc not really interacting.

[MalevolentBite]

1. That's absolutely ridiculous. No fighter in pbc negotiations for themselves. Aside from having managers and advisor( which is haymons official title) they still can't get the greenlight til the man says so. Idk how that's so hard to understand.

2. Information isn't fact so I'm glad you chose that word wisely. Nothing to debunk. Pbc was for the fight til the fans and wbo weren't so that's why it didn't go thru. That simple. Not to mention spencerina doesn't even have a trainer.

Terrance Crawford stated the fight got done when he contacted Spence directly. He stated this on youtube when interviewed. So now you are calling Crawford an lair ?

2. Send the link where PBC promoted the fight either on their official Twitter, Instagram or youtube. They never even tried to promote the "fight" the only ones talking about it was fundora and his promoter. Spence was never speaking with Al lol. From any point when Spence entered the ring with fundora. Pbc never stated that fight was official. It was just talking.

[MulaKO]

The fight was always going to get promoted by pbc. Fight hype. Terrance Crawford interviews on youtube. He stated the fight only happened when he called Spence directly and not talking with his handlers.

Ok so your assuming everything
From people in the business I’ve never heard anything like problems or what not
Yes I do recall the phone call but that was two men discussing are we gonna do this or not , nothing more nothing less
Then their promotional teams took over to finalize

[MalevolentBite]

You’re weird. Grooming for 4 years? He’s 22. He’ll be fighting for a title soon he’s not some goofy 28 year old prospect like bootsy ennis lol

ok? Canelo had first title fight at 21. What's weird with what I said ? He has had plenty of pro fights now and still hasn't stepped up his competition once until his last fight. He has over 130 amateur fights. He should be pushing for a title. Who said anything about boots ? This article never mentioned his name at all. Zays name was mentioned though and I don't think he beats Fundora and I think top rank thinks so too.

[MalevolentBite]

Ok so it doesn’t mean their on bad terms , he just hasn’t heard from Uncla Al
That's nothing new as I recall in the past other PBC fighters saying the same thing
awhere did you get the story that Spence went behind Uncle Al’s back to get the deal done ???
Funny cause it was promoted by PBC

The fight was always going to get promoted by pbc. Fight hype. Terrance Crawford interviews on youtube. He stated the fight only happened when he called Spence directly and not talking with his handlers.

Nobody on pbc was bigger than Spence at the time. That would be random for them to not stay in contact but ok.

[MulaKO]

I originally thought the Ferrari crash had damaged Spence, but he surprised me when he beat Garcia so easily. Ugas is a bit overrated and under-powered. When he fought Crawford, Errol didn't look right at all. And, he had just been in another car crash. The man's brain is damaged, plain and simple.

Yes , courtesy of Bud Crawford

[SUBZER0ED]

Never mentioned when he was whipping Ugas and Garcia’s though

I originally thought the Ferrari crash had damaged Spence, but he surprised me when he beat Garcia so easily. Ugas is a bit overrated and under-powered. When he fought Crawford, Errol didn't look right at all. And, he had just been in another car crash. The man's brain is damaged, plain and simple.