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  • pollywog
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    #31
    ^^^Started out this mornin' feelin' so polite.

    I always thought a fish could not be caught who didn't bite​...

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    • keith_head
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      #32
      Originally posted by pollywog

      Damn straight he didn't beat Joshua but he deserved a rematch given the reffing.

      Don't know about yes men but Parker is a better fighter than he ever was with Kevin Barry, the ultimate Vegas grifter.

      Ruiz, Wilder and Zhang are what they are and yet AJ still ducked them, except for Andy who he ran from after getting splattered by a lesser version than Parker beat.
      It's actually Fury who has consistently ducked guys far more than AJ ever did.

      Fury never fought anyone with decent footwork or quick hands ever since he got put down by Cunningham.

      Only thing that made him get in the ring with Usyk was Turki waving a cheque in his face.

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        #33
        Originally posted by keith_head

        It's actually Fury who has consistently ducked guys far more than AJ ever did.

        Fury never fought anyone with decent footwork or quick hands ever since he got put down by Cunningham.

        Only thing that made him get in the ring with Usyk was Turki waving a cheque in his face.
        Always said Fury made Parker his BFF so he wouldn't have to fight him and figured Joe would deal to him if they did.

        Fury opening up his family and gym for Parker was good for both of them. I like the idea of them still being buds in old age.

        It's great to finally see the arse end of the Fury, Joshua, Wilder era. It'd be even better to see the same for Arum, Warren and Hearn.

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        • Dakuwaqa
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          #34
          Originally posted by pollywog

          Always said Fury made Parker his BFF so he wouldn't have to fight him and figured Joe would deal to him if they did.

          Fury opening up his family and gym for Parker was good for both of them. I like the idea of them still being buds in old age.

          It's great to finally see the arse end of the Fury, Joshua, Wilder era. It'd be even better to see the same for Arum, Warren and Hearn.
          Bro I get that you support polly fighters but you are a little delusional.

          Out of interest why are there so few Māori top level boxers? All the of the NZers I can think are Islanders

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            #35
            Originally posted by Dakuwaqa

            Bro I get that you support polly fighters but you are a little delusional.

            Out of interest why are there so few Māori top level boxers? All the of the NZers I can think are Islanders
            Do you think Fury beats Parker? I don't, but if you do then i think you're the one with delusions.

            For whatever reason Fury decided to buddy up to Parker, it goes back to about the time he split with Peter Fury. At that time Hughie had a failed PED test - like Tyson, who quit - but Hughie/Peter somehow managed to avoid any penalty and attempt to job Parker of his strap in Manchester.

            Here's the thing most people dont understand. Maori and "islanders" are essentially the same people in the same way that white Euros are. We don't talk about the French race or the British race and yet there is this perception that there is a Maori race distinct from other Pasifikan peoples.

            If i were to take a guess though, id say its because Maori are more hybridised as a peoples in Aotearoa/New Zealand. They've lost enough fast muscle twitch and bone density that makes Pasifikans great fighters and way more suited to contact/combat sport.

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              #36
              Originally posted by pollywog

              Do you think Fury beats Parker? I don't, but if you do then i think you're the one with delusions.

              For whatever reason Fury decided to buddy up to Parker, it goes back to about the time he split with Peter Fury. At that time Hughie had a failed PED test - like Tyson, who quit - but Hughie/Peter somehow managed to avoid any penalty and attempt to job Parker of his strap in Manchester.

              Here's the thing most people dont understand. Maori and "islanders" are essentially the same people in the same way that white Euros are. We don't talk about the French race or the British race and yet there is this perception that there is a Maori race distinct from other Pasifikan peoples.

              If i were to take a guess though, id say its because Maori are more hybridised as a peoples in Aotearoa/New Zealand. They've lost enough fast muscle twitch and bone density that makes Pasifikans great fighters and way more suited to contact/combat sport.

              dude you're weird AF and your obsession with geneology is super cringey. I'm from NZ by the way. The weird way you're talking about this stuff creeps me out.

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                #37
                Originally posted by pollywog

                Don't know about yes men but Parker is a better fighter than he ever was with Kevin Barry, the ultimate Vegas grifter.
                I'm no Kevin Barry fan (I find the dude really creepy) but is he really better than he was under Barry?
                Best wins under Barry:
                - Andy Ruiz - win by default after losing the early rounds and Ruiz gassed
                - Carlos Takam - high level gatekeeper/genuine contender at the time Parker fought him.

                Best wins under Andy Lee:
                - Zhilei Zhang - win by default after losing the early rounds and Zhang gassed
                - Deontay Wilder - a washed fighter who was arguably never any good to begin with.

                So it's debatable whether he's actually improved.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by keith_head


                  dude you're weird AF and your obsession with geneology is super cringey. I'm from NZ by the way. The weird way you're talking about this stuff creeps me out.
                  I guess the difference is that I'm from Pasifika and residing in Aotearoa. New Zealand is this Brit colony that still kowtows to the Crown.

                  You are aware that Maori/Pasifika culture and heritage is based on whakapapa which is duh...GENEALOGY.

                  And i couldnt give a fück if your creeped out. By the same token, most white guys creep me out.

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                  • pollywog
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by keith_head

                    I'm no Kevin Barry fan (I find the dude really creepy) but is he really better than he was under Barry?
                    Best wins under Barry:
                    - Andy Ruiz - win by default after losing the early rounds and Ruiz gassed
                    - Carlos Takam - high level gatekeeper/genuine contender at the time Parker fought him.

                    Best wins under Andy Lee:
                    - Zhilei Zhang - win by default after losing the early rounds and Zhang gassed
                    - Deontay Wilder - a washed fighter who was arguably never any good to begin with.

                    So it's debatable whether he's actually improved.
                    Wins over Zhang and Wilder count more than wins over Ruiz and Takam.

                    Under Lee and Lockhart, 2025 Parker would obliviate Ruiz and Takam.

                    I'd even pick the corpse of present Wilder to beat Ruiz and Zhang would smash Takam to bits inside 4....imho

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                      #40
                      Usyk - Parker will be the only true fught after Parker veats Dubois.

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