Comments Thread For: Did Tyson Fury have the wrong plan for Oleksandr Usyk?

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  • eco1
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    #41
    People ask the wrong question.

    Does anyone have the right plan/plansssss against a guy the transforms into a different fighter as rounds go by? NO.

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    • NihonJim
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      #42
      Originally posted by oldschoolfool
      Fury from Fury v Wilder 1 destroys Usyk. Have a look at version of Fury. Fury left everything in the ring after Wilder 3. Fury was the only one with the balls to fight wilder when Wilder was still a killer. What was it, 8 or 9 knockdowns over 30 something rounds. Casuals know sweet fuq all about boxing.
      There's truth in this but also Fury only has himself to blame, he rushed into wilder 1 and trained lazy and disrespected wilder in the 3rd fight.

      All 3 fights should have been like the second one, it was fury's ego that got him damaged

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        #43
        Fury had a game plan - Usyk didn't allow him to execute it.

        You can't just walk a guy down that doesn't go straight back, doesn't stand in the center and trade, and doesn't slow enough to catch him as the rounds go on.

        Usyk was moving and punching for the vast majority of the time - Didn't give Fury many opportunities. When Usyk got tired and took his foot off the pedal in the later rounds, Fury did some good work. But Usyk was strategic when he took his breaks and always turned up the volume in the last 30 seconds, which probably made the difference in a couple close rounds.

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        • letsgochump
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          #44
          Originally posted by oldschoolfool
          Fury from Fury v Wilder 1 destroys Usyk. Have a look at version of Fury. Fury left everything in the ring after Wilder 3. Fury was the only one with the balls to fight wilder when Wilder was still a killer. What was it, 8 or 9 knockdowns over 30 something rounds. Casuals know sweet fuq all about boxing.
          Hahhahhahhah that’s a good one. Calling other casuals and then ignoring the fact that Fury was a cherry pick gone wrong for Wilder.

          Wilder has fought 3 world class fighters: Fury, Parker and Zhang. What do these 3 guys have in common? What do you think?


          Fury didn’t have a wrong game plan for Usyk. Ducking Usyk as long as possible was the right gameplan. Fury knew he was gonna lose against a faster and more skilled fighter. He tried to win the first time and almost got finished. Second time he was happy surviving and hoping judges would favour him like they did in the first fight. It was the best bet but still only a fool’s hope.

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          • BirdSong
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            #45
            tyson is just not as good as that guy, plain and simple, tyson will be remember for wilder fights which were a bit epic really, finish off with a joshua fight and sail off into the sunset

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            • letsgochump
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              #46
              Originally posted by topo5358
              factsareniceMon Dec 30, 2024, 6:3 PM
              "No offense, but Deontay Wilder only looked terrific punching out old men and in-house tin cans.... right up until he stumbled out of the PBC feeding trough and got exposed. Again, I'm not trying to hurt anyone's feelings but that's the truth. Beyond the ridiculous outfit, what did Wilder ever have to leave in the ring? Wilder​"

              Wilder fights were a whole lot better to watch than most of the other HWs out there. He knocked down Fury several times in each of 2 different fights, even with Fury employing his usual dirty tactics, which he obviously felt he had to use to beat a man 50 lbs. lighter, who according to most on here couldn't box and was giving up 4" in reach. And these same folks who say Wilder can't box claim Fury is a "master-boxer." Yet Wilder knocked him down more times in those 2 fights than Ali was put down in his 60+ fight career against a virtual "murderer's row" of explosive punchers. Go figure. THOSE are facts. Wilder also defended his title 10 times, over 5+ years. Who's the last Champ to do that? How many defenses did Fury make? Oh, I know, Wilder didn't fight any Joe Fraziers or George Foremans, but damn, he at least fought, and fought a hell of a lot more than AJ or Fury.
              Oh come on man. Likely even Samuel Peter or Alex Dimitrenko would have had 10 title defenses if they got to fight the Szpilkas and Stivernes that Wilder was beating up. Wilder only fought cand until Fury, Parker and Zhang and he took 4 losses 0 wins and 1 draw against them. Not a good record.

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