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    Comments Thread For: Teddy Atlas: Oleksandr Usyk is one of the great winners of our era

    Veteran trainer and broadcaster Teddy Atlas believes Oleksandr Usyk could have held his own with any heavyweight in history.
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    He has to be most accomplished out of all the 30 to 37 age range of this Era. I still don't think he is the most skilled. I still rate Crawford and Loma higher in skills.

    Loma had to fight out of his weight and Crawford didn't really have the chance to prove he was the greatest by beating others in their prime.
    Last edited by boxingitis; 12-22-2024, 06:44 PM.

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      "(T)here’s not one thing about him where you can say, ‘Oh my God, he’s so great" - Teddy Atlas

      I'll name four: vision, whole body movement, timing & ACCURACY.​

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        he got ali trophy, gold olympic champion
        undefeated and has same birthday as Ali and height and reach
        Last edited by MrShakeAndBake; 12-23-2024, 12:22 AM.

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          #5
          Originally posted by boxingitis
          He has to be most accomplished out of all the 30 to 37 age range of this Era. I still don't think he is the most skilled. I still rate Crawford and Loma higher in skills.

          Loma had to fight out of his weight and Crawford didn't really have the chance to prove he was the greatest by beating others in their prime.

          Hasn’t Usyk been fighting out of “his weight” at HW the last couple years?

          Hell, Fury outweighed him by almost half a Loma in their last fight!

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            #6
            Originally posted by Jsrr


            Hasn’t Usyk been fighting out of “his weight” at HW the last couple years?

            Hell, Fury outweighed him by almost half a Loma in their last fight!
            Doesn't Usyk have the advantage in "Speed", is able to move easier due to less weight bein carried, probably has more endurance by being smaller, compared to Other heavyweights? Remember Mike Tyson was only 5 '10" 220 lbs with tremendous speed to generate power. So "weight" in not always an advantage, otherwise Butterbean would have been the GOAT.

            It's different in the lower weight classes. Those small pounds make a difference.
            Per your Logic Loma should be able to keep moving up, weights Doesn't matter.

            If you put Usyk vs Loma at 130 or vs Crawford at 140, Usyk does not beat them. I'm comparing "Skill" level. That was my "opinion" in my comment.
            Yes, Usyk is the most accomplished of the 3.
            Last edited by boxingitis; 12-23-2024, 02:16 AM.

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              The Loma D riders are so funny to me, he's not more skilled than Usyk FOH. And even if he was he lacks the intangibles - will, heart and determination. The only ones that could have better skills than him are Bud, Inoue, maybe Bivol

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                #8
                Originally posted by KrusherStan
                The Loma D riders are so funny to me, he's not more skilled than Usyk FOH. And even if he was he lacks the intangibles - will, heart and determination. The only ones that could have better skills than him are Bud, Inoue, maybe Bivol
                Man, your hate for Loma is a bit meh. If you don't see greatness in him you KSAB

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by KrusherStan
                  The Loma D riders are so funny to me, he's not more skilled than Usyk FOH. And even if he was he lacks the intangibles - will, heart and determination. The only ones that could have better skills than him are Bud, Inoue, maybe Bivol
                  I know right, some people prefer to get Krushed by Bud's D, but when it gets Krushed too hard they go to the Asians Inuoe and Bivol.
                  Last edited by boxingitis; 12-23-2024, 11:17 AM.

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                    i hear you Teddy but all i know is that to took Usyk to light up the HW division by showing how much hype was envovlved in making Fury (and several other HW's) sound like he was unbeatable and the best ever or in this era....................

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