Oleksandr Usyk is the greatest fighter since…
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I will just assume most of you people here aren't bright enough to understand how to read. Again let me type this again. Who did Tyson Fury beat to become a ATG? Also this era of heavyweights are huge? You do realize back in the 1990's you literally had 100s and 100s of heavyweights who were at least 6'6 250 pounds up to 6'11 and 300 plus pounds? The fact that you think heavyweights are bigger now pretty much tells me you are a 12 year old kid who just repeats stuff you hear people on TV say. That is why you think Tyson Fury is a ATG even though Fury has never beat anybody besides a 40 year old Wlad. Be a dear and no message me again and I won't message you again.
What level of fighters were these big heavyweight during that era you were talking about? Obviously when i said "Era of Big Heavyweights" i was talking about the current top dogs of this Heavyweight Era, not some random big dudes fighting in heavyweight.Comment
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Serious recency bias. Cruiser has always been a garbage division, and at heavy weight he beaten 5 opponents, the biggest were AJ who was a mediocre hype job and Fury who is out of shape and past his prime. Dubois win might be decent but he only has 23 pro fights. Any talk of ATG is laughable imo.Last edited by Oracle01; 12-22-2024, 12:42 AM.Comment
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Looks like you are the one not reading properly here. Not once i did mentioned Fury was ATG. In fact i mentioned he is not an ATG win for Usyk. lmao
What level of fighters were these big heavyweight during that era you were talking about? Obviously when i said "Era of Big Heavyweights" i was talking about the current top dogs of this Heavyweight Era, not some random big dudes fighting in heavyweight.Comment
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You are listing greats, while I don't think usyk could beat prime tommy morrison , ruddock , or Mercer, He has fought nobody at HW who has skill and can punch.Comment
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Um who are the big heavyweights now? Lol fat Tyson Fury? Fat Joe Joyce? Fat Zhang? Fat Bakole? I will name you a few bigger heavyweights from the 1990's. Micheal Grant 6'7 250 who fought for the title, Lance Whitaker 6'8 270 who was considered a contender, Jorge Luis Gonzales 6'7 250 fought for the title 6'7 Henry Akinwande who actually won the WBO version of the title. Also you do realize both Wladimir Klitschko and Vitali Klitschko turned pro in the 1990's lol. Also so if don't think Tyson Fury is a ATG then how does Usyk beating him make Usyk a ATG? Tyson Fury did still did nothing in his career besides beat a old Wlad so how is Usyk beating a druggy version of Fury a good or great win?
Vitali and Wlad are both big but wasn't the top dog that time. Wlad feasted on smaller fighters during his reign in the 2000s and considered by many as one of the weakest HW era. The Klitschko brothers were mainly 2000s fighters and not 90sComment
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Seriously recency bias. Cruiser has always been a garbage division, and at heavy weight he beaten 5 opponents, the biggest were AJ who was a mediocre hype job and Fury who is out of shape and past his prime. Dubious win might be decent but he only has 23 pro fights. Any talk of ATG is laughable imo.
But yeah, Usyk beat Joshua who was a media hype job and Usyk beat Joshua after Andy Ruiz beat him first. Usyk beat Dubois but Dubois is hype job. Dubois couldn't even beat Joe Joyce while a 41 year old Chisora did beat Joe Joyce. Then Usyk beat Fury a guy still living off beating a 40 year old 10 years ago. So Usyk isn't close to being a ATG heavyweight and as you said the cruiser weight division has always been trash and nobody has ever cared about that division.Comment
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Wait a minute, wait a minute, we have a intelligent person here. You are correct, it is recently biased but all Usyk fanboys are white and only like him because he is white. Kind of like how Floyd Mayweather fans are black and they only like Floyd because he is black.
But yeah, Usyk beat Joshua who was a media hype job and Usyk beat Joshua after Andy Ruiz beat him first. Usyk beat Dubois but Dubois is hype job. Dubois couldn't even beat Joe Joyce while a 41 year old Chisora did beat Joe Joyce. Then Usyk beat Fury a guy still living off beating a 40 year old 10 years ago. So Usyk isn't close to being a ATG heavyweight and as you said the cruiser weight division has always been trash and nobody has ever cared about that division.
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Cant argue against that, Im not one of bandwagon jumpers, he has great accomplishments for the time and is great boxer but I don't think he is anywhere near the best HWs in history, the fans in here do this stuff every time someone wins a big fight , I feel the HW division is weak and has been for a long time.Comment
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