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  • #41
    Originally posted by j0zef View Post
    He is an ATG heavyweight. Arguing over how he compares to past era's greats is a fool's errand right now. He's up there, top 5, top10, argue away.

    Usyk's success is undeniable and unique. Nobody can ever say he ducked anyone. Nobody can say he had an unfair advantage. He rarely fought at home, he didn't pick opponent's gloves, he didn't wait until his opponents got old, he didn't fight at catchweights. All he did was fight younger and bigger world champions.. and he beat them all.
    Lol Chisora is older than Usyk, Fury is only 2 years younger but is a junky so his body is wore down. Do you know what ATG means? It means All Time Great, not who is a good for what bad era they are in. Usyk is 40 and has yet to fight anybody at heavyweight that you would even consider decent if they fought in the 1990's for example. Daniel Dubois, Fury and Joshua. That is it. Lol beating 3 named guys doesn't make you a ATG great in any division. So Usyk beating a drugged out version of Fury who was never good to began with, Daniel Dubois after Joe Joyce broke his eye suck and Anthony Joshua after Andy Ruiz destroyed him first doesn't make Usyk a ATG heavyweight. You younger generation of pretend boxing fans crack me up. Every time someone does the slightest thing you feel the need to hero worship them and then call them ATG.

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    • #42
      Originally posted by shawnkemp804 View Post

      Fury didn't overachieve. He beat a 40 year old Wlad by running. That is pretty much his career. He beat a faded timid Wlad then beat no talent Deontay Wilder. Fury ist just lock to have boxing in a piss poor era for heavyweights.
      You can't say Usyk is an ATG contending for GOAT and then say Fury is crap at the same time, both can't be true or fury wouldn't have given Usyk his hardest fights.

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      • #43
        Originally posted by NihonJim View Post

        You can't say Usyk is an ATG contending for GOAT and then say Fury is crap at the same time, both can't be true or fury wouldn't have given Usyk his hardest fights.
        Lol maybe English isn't your first language. At no point in time did you see me type Usyk is a ATG because he isn't and will never be a ATG heavyweight. Also Tyson Fury didn't give Usyk his hardest fight. A faded Derek Chisora did way better against Usyk than Fury did which shows you how bad Usyk is as well.

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        • #44
          Originally posted by shawnkemp804 View Post

          Fury is a really good fighter because of what? Him barely beating a 40 year old Wlad? :Lol you admitted that Usky doesn't have a good resume but then turn around and say he is a ATG. You have to have a good resume to be a ATG . To be a ATG you also have to dominate top level fighters. Who did Usyk dominate at heavyweight? Chazz Witherspoon?
          It is a great win for Usyk because of Size difference but Fury himself isn't an ATG.

          I didn't say Usyk don't have great resume. Not sure where you read that

          Usyk is All Time Great because of what he achieved in Cruiserweight and winning in Era of Huge Heavyweights. Usyk is probably close to Evander when it comes to ATG ranking but maybe little bit lower because Evander era was more stacked. Usyk is more dominant on his though.
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          • #45
            Originally posted by shawnkemp804 View Post

            Lol maybe English isn't your first language. At no point in time did you see me type Usyk is a ATG because he isn't and will never be a ATG heavyweight. Also Tyson Fury didn't give Usyk his hardest fight. A faded Derek Chisora did way better against Usyk than Fury did which shows you how bad Usyk is as well.
            Did Usyk have seх with your wife lol?

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            • #46
              Originally posted by shawnkemp804 View Post

              Lol Chisora is older than Usyk, Fury is only 2 years younger but is a junky so his body is wore down. Do you know what ATG means? It means All Time Great, not who is a good for what bad era they are in. Usyk is 40 and has yet to fight anybody at heavyweight that you would even consider decent if they fought in the 1990's for example. Daniel Dubois, Fury and Joshua. That is it. Lol beating 3 named guys doesn't make you a ATG great in any division. So Usyk beating a drugged out version of Fury who was never good to began with, Daniel Dubois after Joe Joyce broke his eye suck and Anthony Joshua after Andy Ruiz destroyed him first doesn't make Usyk a ATG heavyweight. You younger generation of pretend boxing fans crack me up. Every time someone does the slightest thing you feel the need to hero worship them and then call them ATG.
              Mate, please leave. You picked one guy who was older than Usyk and think you struck gold in your argument. I think Glowacki was also older than him if that makes you happybut cong**** on still missing the point.

              Usyk is "yet to fight anybody"? Who would you like him to fight? He beat every top HW out there in his life. It sounds like you're jerking off to 90s boxing and think the only way for Usyk to prove something to you would be to jump in the time machine and fight Lewis.

              "Younger generation boxing fans"? You literally don't know anything about me. You're assuming based on nothing. At least if I assumed that you have no clue what you're talking about, I can reference that you joined NSB 2 years ago. You're a newbie, please stop pretending like you know what you're talking about.


              Oh, and I chuckled at "hero worship". You picked 'shawn kemp' as your username. Kemp was overrated, played no defense, had IQ of a door knob, and had a drug addiction. May have had a felony or two as well. Nice choice for your hero worship. Bye.
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              • #47
                Originally posted by gamesworn View Post

                It is a great win for Usyk because of Size difference but Fury himself isn't an ATG.

                I didn't say Usyk don't have great resume. Not sure where you read that

                Usyk is All Time Great because of what he achieved in Cruiserweight and winning in Era of Huge Heavyweights. Usyk is probably close to Evander when it comes to ATG ranking but maybe little bit lower because Evander era was more stacked. Usyk is more dominant on his though.
                I will just assume most of you people here aren't bright enough to understand how to read. Again let me type this again. Who did Tyson Fury beat to become a ATG? Also this era of heavyweights are huge? You do realize back in the 1990's you literally had 100s and 100s of heavyweights who were at least 6'6 250 pounds up to 6'11 and 300 plus pounds? The fact that you think heavyweights are bigger now pretty much tells me you are a 12 year old kid who just repeats stuff you hear people on TV say. That is why you think Tyson Fury is a ATG even though Fury has never beat anybody besides a 40 year old Wlad. Be a dear and no message me again and I won't message you again.

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                • #48
                  Originally posted by JimRaynor View Post

                  Did Usyk have seх with your wife lol?
                  No but I did have sex with your mom but haven't we all. Lol the best question is do you want have sex with Usyk? Is that why you feel the need to defend a person you don't know

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by shawnkemp804 View Post

                    No but I did have *** with your mom but haven't we all. Lol the best question is do you want have *** with Usyk? Is that why you feel the need to defend a person you don't know
                    You’re either young or have an incredibly low IQ, more than likely both.

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by j0zef View Post

                      Mate, please leave. You picked one guy who was older than Usyk and think you struck gold in your argument. I think Glowacki was also older than him if that makes you happybut cong**** on still missing the point.

                      Usyk is "yet to fight anybody"? Who would you like him to fight? He beat every top HW out there in his life. It sounds like you're jerking off to 90s boxing and think the only way for Usyk to prove something to you would be to jump in the time machine and fight Lewis.

                      "Younger generation boxing fans"? You literally don't know anything about me. You're assuming based on nothing. At least if I assumed that you have no clue what you're talking about, I can reference that you joined NSB 2 years ago. You're a newbie, please stop pretending like you know what you're talking about.


                      Oh, and I chuckled at "hero worship". You picked 'shawn kemp' as your username. Kemp was overrated, played no defense, had IQ of a door knob, and had a drug addiction. May have had a felony or two as well. Nice choice for your hero worship. Bye.
                      Lol I know your white, I know how white guys don't know a damn thing about boxing. I know you only like Usyk beat he is white. Shawn Kemp was also fat drug addict who had tons of kids with tons of women. Why do I give a damn. Lol you think I am going to cry over a man on TV I don't know? I picked this screen name because I had tons of his basketball cards as a 10 year old kid. Lol but you now what is even more funny? Michael Jordan said Kemp was one of the most talented players he ever seen play. Kevin Garnett, Larry Bird, David Robinson have all stated the same thing. But I guess your opinion means more than theirs

                      Also Usyk beat every top heavyweight out there? You mean in a era where nobody watches boxing? You mean in a where Mike Tyson vs Jake Paul drew more views than this fight? Usyk beat a fat druggy Tyson Fury who only beat a old Wlad, Usyk beat Anthony Joshua after Andy Ruiz beat him first. Usyk beat Daniel Dubous after Joe Joyce beat him first. So I guess, Andy Ruiz and Joe Joyce are ATG now right?

                      Lol why I am typing boxing to a white guy to began with. Talking to a white guy about boxing is like talking to a animal about religion. It is just a animal. I can't understand what you are saying and even if it could it couldn't grasp what you are saying. The same thing as a white guy, The moment you see a white guy win a belt in boxing you will see white guys come out the boondocks to overhype them.

                      So keep crying over your white boyfriend Usyk. He will still be a bum.
                      Last edited by shawnkemp804; 12-22-2024, 12:09 AM.

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