Oleksandr Usyk is the greatest fighter since…
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Dont you get sick of it for fck sake , there is not one type of greatness it comes in many forms, just like your a great hater with a miniature mind. there is no greatest just a bunch of greats that get into the building, its easier to do at HW than in the lighter divisions, which is why the top 4 HWs just keep going around trading the same belts, doesnt happen in the lighter divisions because all the top guys are killers and there is more of them in the lighter weights and guys are changing divisions like every week. You can hate on Floyd but he was one of the greatest boxers to ever step in, just live with it.
Don't put Floyd's name with usyks. Floyd was just a name collector. Didn't achieve anything people didn't think he could do, never out of comfort zone. Never fought toughest available consistently, or tried to make things easier with catch weights.
Yes, we get floyd was skilful, but greatness is so much more than that
There is so many areas where HW cannot be compared to say a LW, its just different competition, HW is all on its own in boxing, big money rematches because the general media are all over HW and always have been, only a few of the great lighter weights guys get as big publicly as the HWs, probably only 6/10 lighter divisions guys have really made it to that HW type of status..
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Lol the current heavyweight division is trash. Usyk beat slow robotic Anthony Joshua after fat boy Andy Ruiz did it first. Usyk beat Daniel Dubois after slow Joe Joyce did it first and then he beat Tyson Fury a drug addicted clown who best win/wins in his career are against old Wladimir Klitschko and on talent Deontay. I hate to bring up race but white dudes just say the most hilarlous things when it comes to boxing. Based off the comments I will assume 99 percent of white boxing fans just watch YouTube videos and then think they know boxing.
Usyk isn't a top 10 AT great heavyweight, a top 50 ATG heavyweight, a top 150 ATG etc. Usyk is lucky to be in such a bad era for heavyweights. Just leave it at thatComment
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Fury didn't overachieve. He beat a 40 year old Wlad by running. That is pretty much his career. He beat a faded timid Wlad then beat no talent Deontay Wilder. Fury ist just lock to have boxing in a piss poor era for heavyweights.
Fury is what he's always been a wildcard/joker in the deck, and I say that figuratively and literally.
A big fat guy who looks awkward but somehow is far more effective than he looks, he's got bipolar disorder, he's up and down, he gets drunk and falls over, balloons up to 400lbs.
He's always been like this, and it's why predicting a long dominant run for him was always crazy to me.
For me his best achievement was getting himself back in shape and knocking off Wilder, that was pure cinema.
I said when he won wilder 2 I didn't think it was wise for him to stay around, I didn't believe his mind and body had longevity and so it has proven.
But Fury overachieved, he wasn't even supposed to win any world titles, well he ended up winning them all (not at the same time). When the dust settles he should be satisfied with what he achieved, ink.Comment
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Ursk is a great but to say the best of the greats is a reach, old school prime Ali , then prime Tyson and prime Holyfield would all give him a world of problems, I would bet on Ali Tyson wins, Holyfield would be a great fight. all of them are greats in my book.Comment
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He is an ATG heavyweight. Arguing over how he compares to past era's greats is a fool's errand right now. He's up there, top 5, top10, argue away.
Usyk's success is undeniable and unique. Nobody can ever say he ducked anyone. Nobody can say he had an unfair advantage. He rarely fought at home, he didn't pick opponent's gloves, he didn't wait until his opponents got old, he didn't fight at catchweights. All he did was fight younger and bigger world champions.. and he beat them all.Comment
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Lets not pretend that Fury is an atg win. Fury is a very good fighter but sadly lacks dicipline. Both Usyk and Fury aren't their primes either.
I will say Usyk is the best fighter since Floyd and Pac. Usyk is 100% ATG, i don't think anyone can argue this. He is not on Floyd and Pac range though. Resume not as deep as themComment
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Sir… put down the crack pipe.
Lol the current heavyweight division is trash. Usyk beat slow robotic Anthony Joshua after fat boy Andy Ruiz did it first. Usyk beat Daniel Dubois after slow Joe Joyce did it first and then he beat Tyson Fury a drug addicted clown who best win/wins in his career are against old Wladimir Klitschko and on talent Deontay. I hate to bring up race but white dudes just say the most hilarlous things when it comes to boxing. Based off the comments I will assume 99 percent of white boxing fans just watch YouTube videos and then think they know boxing.
Usyk isn't a top 10 AT great heavyweight, a top 50 ATG heavyweight, a top 150 ATG etc. Usyk is lucky to be in such a bad era for heavyweights. Just leave it at thatComment
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Fury is a really good fighter because of what? Him barely beating a 40 year old Wlad? :Lol you admitted that Usky doesn't have a good resume but then turn around and say he is a ATG. You have to have a good resume to be a ATG . To be a ATG you also have to dominate top level fighters. Who did Usyk dominate at heavyweight? Chazz Witherspoon?Lets not pretend that Fury is an atg win. Fury is a very good fighter but sadly lacks dicipline. Both Usyk and Fury aren't their primes either.
I will say Usyk is the best fighter since Floyd and Pac. Usyk is 100% ATG, i don't think anyone can argue this. He is not on Floyd and Pac range though. Resume not as deep as themComment
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