Comments Thread For: Oleksandr Usyk, Tyson Fury weigh in 55lbs apart for heavyweight title rematch

[ggallin7]

assuming that tyson isnt wearing a weight vest and just normal clothes, i think tyson has pretty muich come in at the exact same weight as wilder 2 277.7 pounds

[buge]

I am very interested in how the first few rounds play out. Fury dominated the early going in the last fight. I am sure Usyk and his team are confident the longer this goes the more it favors them, but those early rounds are very dangerous for the smaller man.

By the way, this undercard is fairly underwhelming to me.

undercard is absolute trash

[Someone88]

Wow! Yes! I can't wait for this great fight! It's amazing they are fighting again! I'm a fan of both Fury and Usyk but for this fight I will go for one fighter. Go Usyk!

[PRINCEKOOL]

1. He was wearing clothes, heavy clothes. 2. Usyk is NOT Wilder so I really hope Fury isn't banking on that strategy. 3. If he indeeds weighs anywhere near that weight, he better get Usyk out of there early, if he doesn't, he is a big fat moving target who will have less in the gas tank.

Tyson Fury's clothing which he was wearing, would of most likely of been way heavier than Oleksandr Uysk's 'Fury was wearing a heavy leather jacket, white jeans, trainers, a hat and most likely a shirt underneath all of that. I would estimate that Tyson Fury is about 10 pounds heavier than the first fight at the very least'.

Oleksandr Uysk in comparison, could potentially be a lighter weight than the first match up 'Uysk was wearing a T-shirt, Baggy track suit pants, trainers and a T-shirt. And he only weighed in at 226 pounds, while wearing all of that clothing'.

I believe during the first weigh in the announcer, may have made a mistake when? They read out Oleksandr Uysk's weight 'It was read out as 233 pounds, which of course was 10 pounds heavier than Uysk's actual fight weight'.

A similar situation happened during David Haye's weigh in, before he fought Nikola Valuev. But that time around? It may have been the Sky Sports commentators relaying the information incorrectly to the observers. The presenters stated that David Haye was 16 stone, instead of 15 stone. Haye weighed in at 217 to 218 pounds, they are the two weights which were mostly used by reporters and more accurate media outlets. I think the weight of 218 pounds has been the most reported weight for David Haye vs Nikola Valuev. Haye weighed in at 218 pounds, vs Valuev 315 pounds. The total the weight differential in pounds between the two fighters was 98 pounds. The fight was billed as David vs Goliath. By the way, David Haye was my fighter.

But back to Tyson Fury vs Oleksandr Uysk II. Tyson Fury in my opinion, in terms of his endurance most likely? Has not improved from their first fight. Tyson Fury was also fully clothed when he weighed in vs Francis Ngannou. Fury weighed in at 277 pounds, which was exactly the same weight which he was vs Deontay Wilder during their third trilogy fight.

Note: Tyson Fury was in supreme condition for his first fight vs Oleksandr Uysk I 'Tyson Fury had to endure 3 back to back training camps, before eventually fighting Oleksandr Uysk on May 18th 2024. And at the very beginning of those three back to back training camps, Fury was already in fight condition.

Tyson Fury for this rematch has not endured three back to back training camps, and he was most likely way over 280 pounds when he started training camp 'That is why I am not so sure, Fury in terms of his endurance is going to improve for this rematch. But I do still expect Tyson Fury to improve his game, in many other areas and add more tactics to challenge Oleksandr Uysk II'.

As you have stated, and I have also been stating something very similar for many weeks 'If Tyson Fury does not hurt or deck Uysk by the middle rounds of this fight. Then the fight may move away from him real quick, in the second half of the fight. When Oleksandr Uysk ether continues to apply pressure, or maintain his form and accuracy with his tactics more supremely than Tyson Fury'.

I now understand something Johnny Nelson stated during the aftermath of the first fight 'He was adamant that Tyson Fury would pull out of this rematch. Because Fury contrary to what certain media narratives have tried to say since, Fury had an unprecedented fight preparation for Oleksandr Uysk I. Never before had Tyson Fury been so active and prepared, during the build up to top level fight since Wladimir Kiltyschko. And as I have stated early, Tyson Fury endured three back to back training camps'.

To conclude: Tyson Fury attempted to beat Oleksandr Uysk I with a hybrid version of his old school Riddler style 'That was why he came into that fight, at his lightest fight weight for almost 7 years, 262 pounds. Tyson Fury's team continually made references to his form from fights vs both Wladimir Kiltschko and Deontay Wilder II'.

So, Johnny Nelson to a certain extent with his observations was relevant 'But when we are talking about a fighter, like Tyson Fury. Fury is a super heavyweight, who on a fight by fight basis can dramatically alter his style, and his conditioning'.

And I believe for this rematch, that is precisely what Tyson Fury has done 'Fury is in my opinion, going to attempt to inflict serious damage upon Uysk in the first half of the fight. If Oleksandr Uysk has survived those early rounds, then Fury? Will himself then manage and maintain his pace, with potentially controversial tactics, Such as rough house tactics, and wrestling Uysk on the inside to disrupt his attacks'.

If Tyson Fury is to win this rematch, he has to build up a big lead in the first half of the fight 'Then just hang on, and do whatever it takes within the rules to negate Oleksandr Uysk's pressure and attacks. It is an extremely risky game plan vs Oleksandr Uysk II, but when you really think about it? It is most likely Tyson Fury's best chance of winning vs a fighter with Uysk attributes at this stage of his career'.

Tyson Fury's tactics could ether work out brilliantly for him 'But I can also envision them back firing very badly, especially if Oleksandr Uysk is managing and withstanding up to Fury's offense better than expected'.

It is still a very close fight to call, I am backing Oleksandr Uysk II to win again 'And potentially in more impressive fashion than the first fight. But like I have stated early in my post? I can envision a way for Tyson Fury to win, it does look like he is at least attempting some really bold tactics here. It is what I anticipated from Tyson Fury, he was not going to come into this rematch and try and fight the same tactical fight as his first effort' etc.

[fistandfury]

Tyson Fury's clothing which he was wearing, would of most likely of been way heavier than Oleksandr Uysk's 'Fury was wearing a heavy leather jacket, white jeans, trainers, a hat and most likely a shirt underneath all of that. I would estimate that Tyson Fury is about 10 pounds heavier than the first fight at the very least'.

Oleksandr Uysk in comparison, could potentially be a lighter weight than the first match up 'Uysk was wearing a T-shirt, Baggy track suit pants, trainers and a T-shirt. And he only weighed in at 226 pounds, while wearing all of that clothing'.

I believe during the first weigh in the announcer, may have made a mistake when? They read out Oleksandr Uysk's weight 'It was read out as 233 pounds, which of course was 10 pounds heavier than Uysk's actual fight weight'.

A similar situation happened during David Haye's weigh in, before he fought Nikola Valuev. But that time around? It may have been the Sky Sports commentators relaying the information incorrectly to the observers. The presenters stated that David Haye was 16 stone, instead of 15 stone. Haye weighed in at 217 to 218 pounds, they are the two weights which were mostly used by reporters and more accurate media outlets. I think the weight of 218 pounds has been the most reported weight for David Haye vs Nikola Valuev. Haye weighed in at 218 pounds, vs Valuev 315 pounds. The total the weight differential in pounds between the two fighters was 98 pounds. The fight was billed as David vs Goliath. By the way, David Haye was my fighter.

But back to Tyson Fury vs Oleksandr Uysk II. Tyson Fury in my opinion, in terms of his endurance most likely? Has not improved from their first fight. Tyson Fury was also fully clothed when he weighed in vs Francis Ngannou. Fury weighed in at 277 pounds, which was exactly the same weight which he was vs Deontay Wilder during their third trilogy fight.

Note: Tyson Fury was in supreme condition for his first fight vs Oleksandr Uysk I 'Tyson Fury had to endure 3 back to back training camps, before eventually fighting Oleksandr Uysk on May 18th 2024. And at the very beginning of those three back to back training camps, Fury was already in fight condition.

Tyson Fury for this rematch has not endured three back to back training camps, and he was most likely way over 280 pounds when he started training camp 'That is why I am not so sure, Fury in terms of his endurance is going to improve for this rematch. But I do still expect Tyson Fury to improve his game, in many other areas and add more tactics to challenge Oleksandr Uysk II'.

As you have stated, and I have also been stating something very similar for many weeks 'If Tyson Fury does not hurt or deck Uysk by the middle rounds of this fight. Then the fight may move away from him real quick, in the second half of the fight. When Oleksandr Uysk ether continues to apply pressure, or maintain his form and accuracy with his tactics more supremely than Tyson Fury'.

I now understand something Johnny Nelson stated during the aftermath of the first fight 'He was adamant that Tyson Fury would pull out of this rematch. Because Fury contrary to what certain media narratives have tried to say since, Fury had an unprecedented fight preparation for Oleksandr Uysk I. Never before had Tyson Fury been so active and prepared, during the build up to top level fight since Wladimir Kiltyschko. And as I have stated early, Tyson Fury endured three back to back training camps'.

To conclude: Tyson Fury attempted to beat Oleksandr Uysk I with a hybrid version of his old school Riddler style 'That was why he came into that fight, at his lightest fight weight for almost 7 years, 262 pounds. Tyson Fury's team continually made references to his form from fights vs both Wladimir Kiltschko and Deontay Wilder II'.

So, Johnny Nelson to a certain extent with his observations was relevant 'But when we are talking about a fighter, like Tyson Fury. Fury is a super heavyweight, who on a fight by fight basis can dramatically alter his style, and his conditioning'.

And I believe for this rematch, that is precisely what Tyson Fury has done 'Fury is in my opinion, going to attempt to inflict serious damage upon Uysk in the first half of the fight. If Oleksandr Uysk has survived those early rounds, then Fury? Will himself then manage and maintain his pace, with potentially controversial tactics, Such as rough house tactics, and wrestling Uysk on the inside to disrupt his attacks'.

If Tyson Fury is to win this rematch, he has to build up a big lead in the first half of the fight 'Then just hang on, and do whatever it takes within the rules to negate Oleksandr Uysk's pressure and attacks. It is an extremely risky game plan vs Oleksandr Uysk II, but when you really think about it? It is most likely Tyson Fury's best chance of winning vs a fighter with Uysk attributes at this stage of his career'.

Tyson Fury's tactics could ether work out brilliantly for him 'But I can also envision them back firing very badly, especially if Oleksandr Uysk is managing and withstanding up to Fury's offense better than expected'.

It is still a very close fight to call, I am backing Oleksandr Uysk II to win again 'And potentially in more impressive fashion than the first fight. But like I have stated early in my post? I can envision a way for Tyson Fury to win, it does look like he is at least attempting some really bold tactics here. It is what I anticipated from Tyson Fury, he was not going to come into this rematch and try and fight the same tactical fight as his first effort' etc.

Fantastic post man, perhaps one of the best I have seen on this website. No insults, no race baiting, no fanboy BS, just serious solid boxing insight. Bravo

[Kris Silver]

I am very interested in how the first few rounds play out. Fury dominated the early going in the last fight. I am sure Usyk and his team are confident the longer this goes the more it favors them, but those early rounds are very dangerous for the smaller man.

By the way, this undercard is fairly underwhelming to me.

He gave away the first 2 or 3 rounds, it's the middle rounds he won and began to dominate.

I think with more sparring this time, being sharper alone. Fury focussed and performing as be can in those rounds, and a couple of earlier rounds. Not getting caught. That alone, he wins.

To have given away rounds, show boated, getting caught, battered. Still able to come back.

Only losing by a round or 2. He takes a clear UD without any of those manageable negatives, featuring this time.

[PRINCEKOOL]

Fantastic post man, perhaps one of the best I have seen on this website. No insults, no race baiting, no fanboy BS, just serious solid boxing insight. Bravo

Cheers man, thanks.

Well, I think the trajectory of the action that I expected played out last night in this rematch. Tyson Fury technically skill for skill fought a more solid fight fundamentally. Fury was able to reduce the frequency of unforced errors and technical mistakes committed, which? Along with his endurance levels, those were the two areas of his game which Oleksandr Uysk I & II was able to out compete Tyson Fury over the duration of a 12 round fight, both in the first fight and once again in this rematch'.

Oleksandr Uysk does seem to beatable, I don't see a formidable fighter 'But? I have long maintained, that a hallmark trait of these modern day super heavyweight fighters. Is that skill for skill, they are overrated and overall their conditioning is nowhere near to the level of fighters from past Heavyweight eras'.

I have sat back and watched for many years, the media and certain demographics of the boxing community 'Mock and ridicule past Heavyweight eras, that were dominated predominantly by the more classical physique style heavyweight fighters. So, we are talking about the 90's, 80's, 70's, 60's and basically most of Heavyweight boxing history'.

In reality Lennox Lewis was the first dominant Super Heavyweight fighter 'But even Lennox Lewis was pushed, and at times beaten in those more classically physique dominant time periods in Heavyweight boxing history'.

Lennox Lewis, Wladimir Kiltschko and Vitali Kiltschko 'Have been the only three dominant Super Heavyweight fighters, in boxing history. Rid**** Bowe at his absolute peak, was a formidable fighter. But overall he was not a dominant Champion, and he was beaten by Evander Holyfield in their rematch'.

Oleksandr Uysk beating both Tyson Fury and Anthony Joshua, twice back to back 'Signifies a very important moment in the culture of Heavyweight boxing. Since the retirement of Evander Holyfield, it was David Haye who first? Challenged the Super Heavyweight fighters, as a classical physique styled Heavyweight fighter. Haye was able to win the WBA Heavyweight title, vs Nikola Valuev. In a fight where he was being outweighed by 7 stone'.

David Haye came very close to achieving similar feats to Oleksandr Uysk in the Heavyweight division 'The big unfortunate obstacle for Haye, was that he was not competing against Tyson Fury or Anthony Joshua. Who are good Super Heavyweight fighters, but? I think it is very clear now, that they are not all-time great Super Heavyweight fighters to the level that Lennox Lewis, Wladimir Kiltschko and Vitali Kiltschko. Because they have both been involved in numerous fights, that stylistically should of been more straight forward battles than they were. But instead those fights escalated into mighty struggles, that have played defining moments in their careers'.

Note: Although both Tyson Fury and Anthony Joshua 'Have beaten Wladimir Kiltschko. I don't rate ether Fury or Joshua, as greater Heavyweight fighters or Champion's than Kiltschko. Wladimir Kiltschko is the last true all-time great Super Heavyweight fighter. Stylistically whenever he was in a fight against a classical physique styled Heavyweight fighter, Kiltschko made those type of match ups straight forward tactical fights'.

Lennox Lewis, Wladimir Kiltschko and Vitali Kiltschko 'For the most part, all shared that level of technical ability. To make those stylistic match ups, straight forward battles. But in comparison, neither Tyson Fury nor Anthony Joshua have shown that same level of Super Heavyweight ability'.

David Haye was effectively the Oleksandr Uysk of his era 'But with game altering power, in the form of Hayemaker's. David Haye the Lineal Ring ****zine, WBC, WBA, WBO, Cruiserweight Champion. And Haye technically should of been the Undisputed Cruiserweight Champion, Jean Marc Mormeck had beaten O'Neil bell who was the IBF World Champion and avenged a loss, but Bell was stripped of the IBF title'.

David Haye was my fighter 'But I will be honest. Wladimir Kiltschko made that fight, more straight forward than Fury and Joshua did in their two fights against Oleksandr Uysk. Because that is what all-time great Super Heavyweights should do vs classical physique styled Heavyweights'.

To conclude: So, my overall perspective on last night's fight. Is that it was good for the culture of Heavyweight boxing. And it is even great for people who debate boxing 'Boxing fans or analyst sometimes like to discuss hypothetical match ups. Apparently Tyson Fury head to head hypothetically, was one of the most formidable Heavyweight fighters of all-time. Well? A former Cruiser weight fighter, who had to body build himself up into a 220 pound classical physique style Heavyweight frame, has just beaten both Tyson Fury and Anthony Joshua twice back to back. The two best Super Heavyweight fighters of this modern boxing era'.

I have always maintained, that past Heavyweights were most likely naturally bigger fighters than recent Heavyweights like Evander Holyfield, David Haye and Oleksandr Uysk. Fighters such as Muhammad Ali, and pretty all of the fighters from those boxing era's. Never practiced body building routines during their training, because they were more focused on overall conditioning via the use old school training methodologies.

Muhammad Ali, Joe Frazier, George Foreman, Ken Norton, Rocky Marciano, Joe Louis, they all boiled down to their fighting weight 'The training culture in the Heavyweight division back during those eras, was not about being a mass monster. It was about being conditioned fighter, who potentially had to battle for 15 rounds in a Championship fight'.

Oleksandr Uysk has shown the boxing community, and observers beyond. That heavyweight fighters from all of those past great boxing eras, would not only be able to complete but sometimes beat the modern day super heavyweight fighters etc.