Paul Williams current P4P rank is an insult?

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  • street bully
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    #11
    Originally posted by chicano79us
    Who has he beaten apart from Margarito? Oh an Old Winky/Phillips and going 1-1 with Quintana?? Oh yea...that's P4P material right there!!!
    Lets have Cotto and Clottey fight him, and get beat up and sonned. Question you know any othe WW that can beat Pavlik? I don't.

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    • The_Demon
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      #12
      doesnt insult me

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      • Mr. Fantastic
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        #13
        Originally posted by street bully
        Lets have Cotto and Clottey fight him, and get beat up and sonned. Question you know any othe WW that can beat Pavlik? I don't.
        Then tell him to go back to WW and work for it like the rest of them did. How do we even know Williams can?? The fight hasn't happened yet.

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        • baracuda
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          #14
          not as bad as floyd being rated # 2 after beating jmm at ww...

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          • Dorian
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            #15
            Originally posted by chicano79us
            Who has he beaten apart from Margarito? Oh an Old Winky/Phillips and going 1-1 with Quintana?? Oh yea...that's P4P material right there!!!
            Winky fight was legit, many said Winky would beat Williams, yet the man lost every single round. Shane doesn't want to fight him, May doesn't. Berto doesn't.

            Like I said, after he outworks Pavlik he should get the respect he deserves.

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            • MOTHER DUCKER
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              #16
              Originally posted by Ðemise
              PWill is all based on theory.

              That he can beat the top fighters from the divisions. He's still got to prove it. Who has he beat;

              Wrinkly Wright?

              ****ing hell at last someone who thinks the same as me

              TS Williams is ****ing lucky to be on the p4p list at all cause his top wins are:

              Margaritto (very close but a good win) and erm....

              Winky wright a 37 year old 2 years inactive and erm..

              Quitana? a B ww who he lost to first time out

              Now dry your eyes

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              • D-MiZe
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                #17
                Street, you backing Williams against Pavlik?

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                • street bully
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by chicano79us
                  Then tell him to go back to WW and work for it like the rest of them did. How do we even know Williams can?? The fight hasn't happened yet.
                  Yeah right, thats why Cotto hid in the shadows until Williams went for the 154 interm title and the WBO stripped him, then all of the sudden Cotto wanted to fight jennings for it. . Margarito wanted none either.

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                  • javelin_fangs
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by street bully
                    How are there fighters that he is better than ranked so much higher than him?
                    P4P rating are kind of ****** anyway. There are prospects who are pound for pound better than titlists, but the way people do pound for pound you usually don't "earn" your ranking until you're already getting older. Someone like Abner Mares P4P is way better than most titlists like someone like Celestino Caballero, who've I've seen on P4P rankings. But Mares hasn't fought any titlists so even though his talent says P4P he can't get the ranking.

                    I'm not sure how good Williams is, but I bet you if he ever does "earn" his way into the top 5 or so he'll already be on the way down. Right now is his peak. He's at his best right now. Two or three years from now he's not going to be as good regardless of what he earns in terms of ranking.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by street bully
                      Lets have Cotto and Clottey fight him, and get beat up and sonned. Question you know any othe WW that can beat Pavlik? I don't.
                      **** me did Williams beat Pavlik allready? didn't realise that fight in dec was a rematch

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