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Originally posted by Oracle01 View Post
Its not a solid resume its total trash. You are literally listing journeymen as some of his best wins. Ndam was David Lemieux left overs who was never a real champ, he won an interim and then emailed the real belt.
Listed his wins over fringe contenders and a former champion that was not at his best. It is something that should earn him a spot as a contender at 175 for now I believe.
If he beats Buatsi, hope the winner of Benavidez/Morrell get to fight Buatsi/Smith if the Beterviev/Bivol is not available knowing the two Russians low activity rate. Great fighters that make the few fights they have count, but quite inactive.Last edited by Malvado; 12-02-2024, 06:18 PM.
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Originally posted by J.C. Superstar View Post
In terms of Champions beaten, 1 in Hassan N'Dam N'Jikam. Who was champion at Middleweight (160).
He beat fringe Contenders in George Groves, Lenin Castillo, John Ryder and Mathiu Bauderlique.
Solid resume but doesn't suggest that he beat 90% of the opposition at 168-175 unless he proves it.
Think he made improvements prior in his two bouts with Beterviev, not sure what to make of his recent last minute bout.
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Originally posted by garfios View Post
With all do respect, and please dont take it personal, I see a solid domestic resume, ryder was no more of a gatekeeper/journeyman and he went life and death with him, the other three never had a decent showing against a world class boxer, if they ever face one, well Groves got knocked out twice by Froch, before facing callum, N'Dam was a champion at 160 and everytime he stepped up he lost. To me he ain't world class fighter. Barry McGuigan was a world class fighter just like Primce Hamed.
He also got a title shot in a tournament against weak opposition. The two times he defended his title, was against a shot former Middleweight in N'Dam and gatekeeper in Ryder which was controversial.
Named who he faced and I do honestly think it is a solid resume, for a contender. Do think he made improvements under McGirt, though he still got dispatched dominantly by Beterviev.
Do I think he is going to ever be a champion again? No, nor do I think he is much of a favorite against other top fighters like Zinad, Lyndon Arthur, Hot Rod or Yarde.
But I do think he is a nice addition to 175 and if he wants to prove he belongs at the top, beating Buatsi is a good step foward.
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Originally posted by J.C. Superstar View Post
No offense taken, agree that his resume and performances aren't exactly from a world class fighter.
He also got a title shot in a tournament against weak opposition. The two times he defended his title, was against a shot former Middleweight in N'Dam and gatekeeper in Ryder which was controversial.
Named who he faced and I do honestly think it is a solid resume, for a contender. Do think he made improvements under McGirt, though he still got dispatched dominantly by Beterviev.
Do I think he is going to ever be a champion again? No, nor do I think he is much of a favorite against other top fighters like Zinad, Lyndon Arthur, Hot Rod or Yarde.
But I do think he is a nice addition to 175 and if he wants to prove he belongs at the top, beating Buatsi is a good step foward.Malvado likes this.
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Originally posted by garfios View PostHe was promoted to make a nice living, he got his name out there and won the lottery ticket, so mission accomplished, just like ryder without a belt, that most people that watched their fight though he won, still he won the lottery ticket too, I tell you this, if hearns didn't take him out of Morrell Jr path, he probably wouldn't had faced canelo, well with canelo's anything can happen as long as it is no risk.
Similiar thing with Makabu being a limited but smaller fighter at Cruiserweight in 2022, except Ilunga turned down the offer after he realized that the fight only happens at a catchweight of 180-185.garfios likes this.
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Now i see why he fought on pre lims against a journeyman past weekend. Stay busy fight. They had all ready agreed Buatsi fight
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Originally posted by garfios View Post
Just one question, how many World level fighters he has beaten? Please just name them.
You would have to admit? That winning such a tournament was a great boxing feat 'Which deservingly so, should alleviate his rating as a World level fighter'.
Outside of Callum Smith's victory in the World Boxing Super Series, most of his fights have been at Domestic and High End European level 'Interesting? Don't you think he sounds like a certain Heavyweight fighter, who is just weeks away from contending in a rematch vs Oleksandr Uysk II? 90% of Tyson Fury's resume consist of Domestic to High End European level fights'.
But regardless, I have notice that certain folk in the boxing community 'Attempt to devalue a fighters resume, if they have fought a high number of British Domestic, and European level fights. This attitude and perception is abit inaccurate'.
Note: Because for the most part over the past decade 'A top British Domestic level fighter, is most likely going to also be ranked high as a European level fighter'.
So, a fighter can accumulate a solid resume if they are competing at this level 'Fighters such as Derek Chisora, Otto Wallin, for the majority of their career's have been High End European level fighters. But they have both be highly regarded as solid wins for any top level Heavyweight fighter in the World'.
The main point I am trying to make is? Callum Smith even though technically, he has not fought or beaten many World level fighters 'He has still competed at a solid level in the game, because the standard of European boxing is quite high at this point in time'.
There is a reason why the most prestigious titles in boxing besides World titles, are the Lonsdale British Title, and European Title 'Those titles still carry a historical significance, and meaning. They carry a certain level of mass and weight in the game, and are a serious markers of performance for a fighter'.
To conclude: The Light Heavyweight Division in 2024 and moving into 2025, is not the most formidable boxing division in the sport 'You have two Elite level fighters way out in front and above every other fighter. And then you have the chasing pack of fighters, who are all potentially very close in ability'.
Smith is a part of this chasing pack, that is a fact. Yes Smith may of been beaten by Canelo Alvarez over the distance, and I agree? I have always rated that performance as a under par effort from him. But Smith is now campaigning in the Light Heavyweight Division, Canelo Alvarez is not'.
Callum Smith still has the potential to be a threat in the Light Heavyweight Division 'I don't think the Division is super high in ability. So a fighter with the punching power, and desire of Callum Smith backed by his Boxing brothers. You would have to expect one more big effort from Smith, at the very least to campaign for a World title potentially moving forward in his career' etc.
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Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL View Post
Not many, most of his reputation and prestige as a fighter 'Is built up from winning the World Boxing Super Series. Smith's best win on his resume, would have to be against George Groves for the Lineal, WBA Super Middle Weight Titles'.
You would have to admit? That winning such a tournament was a great boxing feat 'Which deservingly so, should alleviate his rating as a World level fighter'.
Outside of Callum Smith's victory in the World Boxing Super Series, most of his fights have been at Domestic and High End European level 'Interesting? Don't you think he sounds like a certain Heavyweight fighter, who is just weeks away from contending in a rematch vs Oleksandr Uysk II? 90% of Tyson Fury's resume consist of Domestic to High End European level fights'.
But regardless, I have notice that certain folk in the boxing community 'Attempt to devalue a fighters resume, if they have fought a high number of British Domestic, and European level fights. This attitude and perception is abit inaccurate'.
Note: Because for the most part over the past decade 'A top British Domestic level fighter, is most likely going to also be ranked high as a European level fighter'.
So, a fighter can accumulate a solid resume if they are competing at this level 'Fighters such as Derek Chisora, Otto Wallin, for the majority of their career's have been High End European level fighters. But they have both be highly regarded as solid wins for any top level Heavyweight fighter in the World'.
The main point I am trying to make is? Callum Smith even though technically, he has not fought or beaten many World level fighters 'He has still competed at a solid level in the game, because the standard of European boxing is quite high at this point in time'.
There is a reason why the most prestigious titles in boxing besides World titles, are the Lonsdale British Title, and European Title 'Those titles still carry a historical significance, and meaning. They carry a certain level of mass and weight in the game, and are a serious markers of performance for a fighter'.
To conclude: The Light Heavyweight Division in 2024 and moving into 2025, is not the most formidable boxing division in the sport 'You have two Elite level fighters way out in front and above every other fighter. And then you have the chasing pack of fighters, who are all potentially very close in ability'.
Smith is a part of this chasing pack, that is a fact. Yes Smith may of been beaten by Canelo Alvarez over the distance, and I agree? I have always rated that performance as a under par effort from him. But Smith is now campaigning in the Light Heavyweight Division, Canelo Alvarez is not'.
Callum Smith still has the potential to be a threat in the Light Heavyweight Division 'I don't think the Division is super high in ability. So a fighter with the punching power, and desire of Callum Smith backed by his Boxing brothers. You would have to expect one more big effort from Smith, at the very least to campaign for a World title potentially moving forward in his career' etc.
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Super Middleweight:
George Groves vs. Jamie Cox
Callum Smith vs. Erik Skoglund
Eubank/Abraham winner vs. Avni Yildirim Juergen Braehmer vs. Rob Brant Please tell me, who is a world beaters from that bunch?
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