Comments Thread For: Tim Tszyu and the price of respect

[LAchargers373]

I remember when you said Crawford was ducking Spence and then Spence was going to knock Crawford out. I'm guessing you still haven't gotten over that beating.

So yeah, sure, Crawford wants to fight the unified champion two weight classes bigger and in some parallel universe of idiots that's considered ducking....lol.

Good luck selling that narrative and for God's Sake get some therapy.

I ain’t selling any narrative it just is what it is lol. The facts are the facts. Duckford has been offered ennis/ortiz/fundora and he’s turned down all 3 fights hoping on a star that canelo will choose his to beat on. He doesn’t understand that canelo fought charlo because charlo had all 4 belts. Duckford has the interim WBO lmao. Canelo not gonna go for that. Maybe if he unified I bet Canelo would be amenable to the fight but duckford cashing out he knows 154 isn’t 147 he found that out quickly

[factsarenice]

I ain’t selling any narrative it just is what it is lol. The facts are the facts. Duckford has been offered ennis/ortiz/fundora and he’s turned down all 3 fights hoping on a star that canelo will choose his to beat on. He doesn’t understand that canelo fought charlo because charlo had all 4 belts. Duckford has the interim WBO lmao. Canelo not gonna go for that. Maybe if he unified I bet Canelo would be amenable to the fight but duckford cashing out he knows 154 isn’t 147 he found that out quickly

LAchargers my friend, do your homework. Fundora is fighting Spence, Crawford gets the winner, it's all agreed upon, that's the deal. If Canelo wants to make 70 million he'll fight Crawford and if not he'll make 15-20 with Eubank and those that want it will pay $90. No need for name calling duckford or whatever other names you have, it's childish, it makes you seem lessor and insincere like a young kid.

That said, bashing Crawford every day because he beat up Errol Spence and offered Canelo a career high payday that Canelo turned down is not a duck or a crime. Canelo doesn't want it, Canelo wants easier fights for lessor money and that's cool. You don't need to come up with all this silliness to justify Canelo's actions, he doesn't want it, let it go.

Clean it up and stop posting nonsense and I'm certain people will take you serious.

[JuniorTorres720]

I'll be the first to admit, I was counting on Tim beating Bakhram Murtazaliev.... BUT....I never expected his team to send him in there with absolutely no game plan, never, not in a million years. Walking straight in, exchanging punches tough guy style because he's a dog is not a fight plan.

Tim is young and yes he can come back but not with that corner, trainer, and absolutely no chance with his current management, not on the elite level.

I appreciate your answer. I love Tim. I like his old school mentality. But this has been hard to watch. I knew his opponent was less experienced but had the potential to show up hungry. He did. I'm not saying Tim underestimated him, but like you said, other factors at work. Sucks to see because I really like him and think he's a great fighter. Maybe he can come back with a different trainer next?

[LAchargers373]

LAchargers my friend, do your homework. Fundora is fighting Spence, Crawford gets the winner, it's all agreed upon, that's the deal. If Canelo wants to make 70 million he'll fight Crawford and if not he'll make 15-20 with Eubank and those that want it will pay $90. No need for name calling duckford or whatever other names you have, it's childish, it makes you seem lessor and insincere like a young kid.

That said, bashing Crawford every day because he beat up Errol Spence and offered Canelo a career high payday that Canelo turned down is not a duck or a crime. Canelo doesn't want it, Canelo wants easier fights for lessor money and that's cool. You don't need to come up with all this silliness to justify Canelo's actions, he doesn't want it, let it go.

Clean it up and stop posting nonsense and I'm certain people will take you serious.

Canelo might fight beterbiev. He never entertained fighting Crawford. I know you think Crawford is some god but his best win is a broken down Spence. Spence will get tuned up by fundora if they fight he’ll get tuned up by anyone at 154. When he does Crawford’s most greatest career achievement will not age well. Canelo wants belts and champs. Crawford has no real belt and isn’t a a real champion at 154. I get it you think you know Terence and he’s a close friend of yours and everything(a lot people have this delusion) but wouldn’t you like to see him in competitive compelling fights? The only elite fight he’s had is Spence. And Spence ain’t very good he hasn’t fought in almost 2 years he can’t see like…fight ennis…fight Ortiz jr…fight fundora even Tim tszyu. It’s like I said can u imagine ODLH and Trinidad not fighting each other not fighting Vargas mayorga quartey? Tito vs Vargas was at 154 tito coming up from WW to fight Vargas the undefeated young lion. Imagine Trinidad ducked that fight. That’s literally what duckford is doing by ducking Ortiz jr. Ortiz jr is like Vargas and Crawford in Tito’s spot. Legends take the fights

[factsarenice]

Canelo might fight beterbiev. He never entertained fighting Crawford. I know you think Crawford is some god but his best win is a broken down Spence. Spence will get tuned up by fundora if they fight he’ll get tuned up by anyone at 154. When he does Crawford’s most greatest career achievement will not age well. Canelo wants belts and champs. Crawford has no real belt and isn’t a a real champion at 154. I get it you think you know Terence and he’s a close friend of yours and everything(a lot people have this delusion) but wouldn’t you like to see him in competitive compelling fights? The only elite fight he’s had is Spence. And Spence ain’t very good he hasn’t fought in almost 2 years he can’t see like…fight ennis…fight Ortiz jr…fight fundora even Tim tszyu. It’s like I said can u imagine ODLH and Trinidad not fighting each other not fighting Vargas mayorga quartey? Tito vs Vargas was at 154 tito coming up from WW to fight Vargas the undefeated young lion. Imagine Trinidad ducked that fight. That’s literally what duckford is doing by ducking Ortiz jr. Ortiz jr is like Vargas and Crawford in Tito’s spot. Legends take the fights

Wow, you are living in a delusional universe and if you keep this up people will dismiss you like the homeless guy in front of big Lots.

Canelo might fight Beterbiev....I mean....really? Nobody in there right mind sincerely believes that any more than anyone believes Canelo doesn't fight Mexicans, it's laughable.

There are a lot better justifications for Canelo turning down a Crawford for more money than Bivol and Beterbiev combined. Go with, Canelo made his bones, he's done, he's doing the retirement tour or Crawford is too small but Crawford isn't a champion at 154lbs? Crawford is avoiding a guy in a lower weight class? Crawford is avoiding Tim Tsyu, a guy that got blasted out a few days ago. Crawford hasn't done anything? Bud Crawford unified two divisions and he's been the P4P #1 or #2 for his entire career. I mean, wtf are you taking about?

If you're young or a casual fan with anger issues it would explain a lot but still, don't do all that hateful crazy BS. If people think you are dumb let them, but don't write crazy nonsense and remove all doubt.

I don't mean to be rude but how old are you?

[factsarenice]

I appreciate your answer. I love Tim. I like his old school mentality. But this has been hard to watch. I knew his opponent was less experienced but had the potential to show up hungry. He did. I'm not saying Tim underestimated him, but like you said, other factors at work. Sucks to see because I really like him and think he's a great fighter. Maybe he can come back with a different trainer next?

Tim is a great guy, he's honest and he's basically a throw back. Tim's team coupled with a group that saw Tim's youth and capacity to draw and that's great but his team never even negotiated the most basic terms to protect Tim, they just threw him to the dogs.

Tim never should have fought a diametrically opposite opponent in Fundora on short notice with no rematch clause. When it was obvious that Tim was handicapped his team should have stepped in like Mark Breland and pulled him to fight another day. The PBC should have made Fundora rematch because they have that power and they didn't because matching Fundora with a welterweight name was more profitable and no, I don't fault the PBC, it was in their best interest. Matching Tim with Murazaliev with the intent of collecting belts in house was also a good profit-driven decision for the PBC. I have no problem with the PBC, they have their own business motivations. The problem is that everyone involved was looking at their personal profit and Tim's manager should have been looking out for Tim 100%.

I know I'm ranting but IMO, Tim's trusted team knew he was getting the short end of the stick and had him convinced he needed to do it out of loyalty. I didn't appreciate Tim's entire team allowing Tim to take all the risks without push-back or consideration. I don't care if it was DAZN, the PBC, ESPN or Turki because they all have their agendas, Tim's team should have looked out for Tim and they fu,ked him.

[LAchargers373]

Wow, you are living in a delusional universe and if you keep this up people will dismiss you like the homeless guy in front of big Lots.

Canelo might fight Beterbiev....I mean....really? Nobody in there right mind sincerely believes that any more than anyone believes Canelo doesn't fight Mexicans, it's laughable.

There are a lot better justifications for Canelo turning down a Crawford for more money than Bivol and Beterbiev combined. Go with, Canelo made his bones, he's done, he's doing the retirement tour or Crawford is too small but Crawford isn't a champion at 154lbs? Crawford is avoiding a guy in a lower weight class? Crawford is avoiding Tim Tsyu, a guy that got blasted out a few days ago. Crawford hasn't done anything? Bud Crawford unified two divisions and he's been the P4P #1 or #2 for his entire career. I mean, wtf are you taking about?

If you're young or a casual fan with anger issues it would explain a lot but still, don't do all that hateful crazy BS. If people think you are dumb let them, but don't write crazy nonsense and remove all doubt.

I don't mean to be rude but how old are you?

I didn’t say he was avoiding Tim tsyzu lmao. He could make these fights though. He’s been offered rnnis and Ortiz jr and fundora and turned all 3 down. I’m much older than you I gaurantee it. Like I said imagine Tito trinidad undefeated coming off beating ODLH in “the fight of the millennium” and brutally KOing gold medallist David Reid then ducked Vargas. You get that right? You just a kid though YDKSAB lol. You just suck nuts of fighters you dont know your history that’s why you think the bums the run today are gods lol

[factsarenice]

I didn’t say he was avoiding Tim tsyzu lmao. He could make these fights though. He’s been offered rnnis and Ortiz jr and fundora and turned all 3 down. I’m much older than you I gaurantee it. Like I said imagine Tito trinidad undefeated coming off beating ODLH in “the fight of the millennium” and brutally KOing gold medallist David Reid then ducked Vargas. You get that right? You just a kid though YDKSAB lol. You just suck nuts of fighters you dont know your history that’s why you think the bums the run today are gods lol

Your point of view isn't magically true just because you keep repeating it like some ridiculous TikTok advertisement on autoplay.

Crawford took step aside for the winner between Fundora and Spence, that's the deal, do your home work. Ortiz took a lot of damage in his last outing and Oscar is looking for someone much easier than Crawford for his next fight, look it up and do your homework. We both know you won't, and when Ortiz steps back in the ring with a showcase opponent you'll forget everything you just said.

Crawford unified 4 belts in two divisions then fought the best champion in the next division higher, and at the same time offered a career defining pay day to reigning supper middleweight champion. Nobody in history that has ever done that and in your eyes that makes him a bum and anyone that doesn't agree with you sucks. I mean really? I'm sorry but I can't fix your eyes and I can't fix s-t-u-p-i-d-i-t-y.

Your inability to adjust your opinion when faced with new information means you are either very young or very dumb or both. Trust me, it's not a sign of intellect and at some point that dumb crap gets old and people will dismiss you like the homeless guy in front of big Lots.

Moving on.....NEXT!

[LAchargers373]

Your point of view isn't magically true just because you keep repeating it like some ridiculous TikTok advertisement on autoplay.

Crawford took step aside for the winner between Fundora and Spence, that's the deal, do your home work. Ortiz took a lot of damage in his last outing and Oscar is looking for someone much easier than Crawford for his next fight, look it up and do your homework. We both know you won't, and when Ortiz steps back in the ring with a showcase opponent you'll forget everything you just said.

Crawford unified 4 belts in two divisions then fought the best champion in the next division higher, and at the same time offered a career defining pay day to reigning supper middleweight champion. Nobody in history that has ever done that and in your eyes that makes him a bum and anyone that doesn't agree with you sucks. I mean really? I'm sorry but I can't fix your eyes and I can't fix s-t-u-p-i-d-i-t-y.

Your inability to adjust your opinion when faced with new information means you are either very young or very dumb or both. Trust me, it's not a sign of intellect and at some point that dumb crap gets old and people will dismiss you like the homeless guy in front of big Lots.

Moving on.....NEXT!

Crawford has never defended his undisputed title at any weight. As I said you are a CHILD. YDKSAB. Winning the titles is the easy part. Defending them is what makes legends. If you knew anything about boxing history you would know that but you just a little kid lol. You keep talking about fundora Spence like you are very close to the negotiations. Explain why that fight hasn’t actually been made? Explain why Spence doesn’t even have a trainer and hasn’t boxed in 2 years but you somehow are going around telling me “I’m dumb keep up blah blah” lol. Where is this imaginary fight between fundora and Spence you are talking about? What’s the date what’s the venue? Maybe I’ll go. As I said YDKSAB. Imagine trinidad ducked Vargas. I don’t get why Crawford fans want him to not fight anybody lol. He’s an elite talent don’t you want to see him fight ennis and Ortiz jr and fundora and other great fighters? It’s so unbelievably weird that bud fans don’t want to see him in any competitive fights lol. Also you saying Crawford beat “the best champion in the next division” shows how dumb and delusional you are. Madrimov is barely top 5 at 154 ROFL. Just because your hero barely beat him doesn’t automatically make him “the best champion” at 154 lmao. Give your head a shake and get ur nose out of Crawford’s crotch you weirdo. Crawford already turned down Ortiz jr Vergil accepted the fight and offer from turki why are you lying saying “Oscar wants an easier fight?” They accepted the offer to fight Crawford from turki but Crawford said no. Not sure why you are literally making things up to try to prove bud didn’t duck certain fights lol

[factsarenice]

Crawford has never defended his undisputed title at any weight. As I said you are a CHILD. YDKSAB. Winning the titles is the easy part. Defending them is what makes legends. If you knew anything about boxing history you would know that but you just a little kid lol. You keep talking about fundora Spence like you are very close to the negotiations. Explain why that fight hasn’t actually been made? Explain why Spence doesn’t even have a trainer and hasn’t boxed in 2 years but you somehow are going around telling me “I’m dumb keep up blah blah” lol. Where is this imaginary fight between fundora and Spence you are talking about? What’s the date what’s the venue? Maybe I’ll go. As I said YDKSAB. Imagine trinidad ducked Vargas. I don’t get why Crawford fans want him to not fight anybody lol. He’s an elite talent don’t you want to see him fight ennis and Ortiz jr and fundora and other great fighters? It’s so unbelievably weird that bud fans don’t want to see him in any competitive fights lol. Also you saying Crawford beat “the best champion in the next division” shows how dumb and delusional you are. Madrimov is barely top 5 at 154 ROFL. Just because your hero barely beat him doesn’t automatically make him “the best champion” at 154 lmao. Give your head a shake and get ur nose out of Crawford’s crotch you weirdo. Crawford already turned down Ortiz jr Vergil accepted the fight and offer from turki why are you lying saying “Oscar wants an easier fight?” They accepted the offer to fight Crawford from turki but Crawford said no. Not sure why you are literally making things up to try to prove bud didn’t duck certain fights lol

I'm going to be honest....your posts are repetitive, one dimensional, elementary crap. I answered these questions over and over but you suffer from a cognitive bias based upon very limited knowledge while grossly overestimating your abilities.

Either you are too young to understand, or too dumb to admit when you're wrong. In either case I'm open to new information but you don't have any new information because guys like you can't gain insights from other people because you can't accept being wrong. Simply repeating your same old nonsensical opinions doesn't mean they're true, it means you're stuck. Do yourself a favor, keep a copy of this in your wallet and some day you will understand the honesty of it. Don't be like the homeless guy in front of big lots.

You and I are done here, good luck...NEXT!