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So, not paying GGG respecks is what makes you quote a person
Let's break it down -
1) Prove it
2) Show me
3) OK
4) Prove it
5) To think Nelo is hated even though he has a much a better resume than GGG
You can't make this up
6) He's doing more than a bunch of fighters and not getting any of the credit
did this hastily so couldnt find all the info i wanted
froch-ggg
https://www.boxingscene.com/froch-th...-power--106212
Froch was in talks to face Golovkin last, but offered a catch-weight of 172-pounds - which the 160-champion found a big too high.
https://www.boxingscene.com/golovkin...t-claim--93042
Golovkin’s promoter Tom Loeffler took to Twitter to refute those claims by saying that they’re were asking for a catch-weight. They were and still are willing to fight the 37-year-old Froch at the full 168lb weight for the fight, and they’re willing to take the fight in the UK.
ward-ggg and promoter dispute
https://www.dca.ca.gov/csac/forms_pu...02_goossen.pdf
Ward and his manager, James Prince,. have .been relatively uncooperative in assisting Goossen in his efforts to procure Ward a fight
Ward insisted on a "tune up" fight with a lesser opponent, but HBO would not pay him the amount he demanded for such a fight
https://www.badlefthook.com/2013/8/1...sartison-fight
HBO Rejects Andre Ward Vs. Dimitri Sartison
Aug 10, 2013
i know there are different goosen quotes from the arbitration where goosen says ward did not want to fight the opponents hbo wanted and ggg was on that list, couldnt find that quickly.
ggg-martinez
https://www.badlefthook.com/2013/6/3...t-says-dibella
Who knows Gennady Golovkin other than you, me and a few other people? How many people would he bring to the table? How much money would he generate? He is the last guy ... He is a very good fighter, but it's a fight that economically makes no sense." -lou dibella
ggg-sturm
https://www.boxingscene.com/oner-exp...olovkin--61851
they approached me and they asked me how I could help them not fight Golovkin. So what happened is, I found a guy and spoke to him. And he offered Sturm a deal and said [to Sturm] "we can ask [the WBA] for super champion [status] and then you don't need to fight him.' And that's what happened," Oner told BoxingScene.com.
ggg-pirog
https://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/...us-back-injury
Dmitry Pirog ruptured a disc in his back while training, forcing him to pull out of an Aug. 25 HBO main event against middleweight titlist Gennady Golovkin
ggg-saunders
https://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/...home-advantage
"They are offering life changing money but it's not just about that because it would be a big risk for me." -billie joe saunders
canelo excuses and division hopping
https://www.ringtv.com/413293-canelo...-middleweight/
I’m not a middleweight,” Alvarez said when discussions veered to a potential showdown with IBF and WBA middleweight champion Gennady Golovkin.
https://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/...r-agree-bout-6
Alvarez, the former middleweight world champion, and Chavez, who also once held a world title at 160 pounds, will meet at a catchweight of 164.5 pounds.
As far as proving that most 30+ year olds dont move up much in weight you can just check the boxrec stats to verify that. would be unwieldy to post tons of screenshots here.
there are lots of reasons to hate on nelo: ped cheater, clear ducker of many fights, rehydro clauses, etc...he certainly has a better resume than ggg but hes also had all the opportunities in the world to make fights, its like comparing joe blow to trum-p. tru-mp started with 400 million dollars, of course he has more. canelo started with a huge fanbase and thus huge power, the guy was fighting hbo main events against mathew hatton before he beat a soul. ggg's first hbo fight was supposed to be against top 5 pirog...canelo also had a built in mexican/mexican american fanbase. completely different dynamic.
canelo is doing more than a lot of fighters thats true, but once again he has way more power than anyone in boxing and he could fight anyone. most fighters cant pick and choose fights like him.Last edited by daggum; 10-15-2024, 10:35 PM.Comment
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1) Boxing news: Carl Froch reveals why Gennady Golovkin fight talks failed, insists he would’ve won by knockout
To assume Froch was scared of GGG is a significant reach
Froch was one of those fighters without a bit of coward in him and he PROVED it constantly.
For TeamGGG to claim their client would fight ANYONE from 154-168 and break that promise something no one can deny.
Instead of fighting the Fielding's and Smith's and Ryder's and Vera's of the sport (which I'm 1000000% sure they would have fought him), GGG fought the likes of
LeMeh
Stevens
Isheda
Monroe
Rubio
OMG the list is embarrassing
I'll say it again, JCC jr could have beaten those guys
He then goes on to break yet another promise -
"Don't worry guys. I'm moving back down to defend my titles
!"
Lara waited
Falcoa waited
And every other MW waited
GGG wanted no part of any of those guys
He retired having a shltty resume
His highlight(s) is Nelo and maybe Jacobs If KO'ing a string of bums is an accolade then add that as well
Murata ( HA)
Kamil ( HA! )
Shortychenko ( ROBBED !)
Rolls ( HA! )
Vanes ( HA ! )
Berlanga > Murata (the only other SMW your hero ever fought )
Munguia > Everyone GGG fought. Including Jacobs.
Imagine if Nelo went out as softly as GGG did !!!!
2) Any promoter worth a damn will say whatever it takes to make their client seem right. TeamHaney is doing just that ignoring the FACT Haney is a thug who couldn't even hurt a carnival employee Even with the help of his paid goons
It's what promoters do
3) "He certainly has a better resume......''
The end, then.....no ?
In closing, no amount of excuses and links would save Nelo from hateful "fight fan's" wrath if he had GGG's embarrassing resume
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"Sergio will be out for at least a year. You saw his last fight, he won it on guts and will and balls alone. He had no knee, he had no hand, and I'm not sending a champion who is 38-years-old - after a year plus layoff - into a ring with this guy. I'm not saying they will never fight. I'm not speaking for Sergio, who is a grown as man and controls his own career. The successor to Sergio Martiknez has already been determined and the next great middleweight is Triple G."
Lou D
DGAF about pillow "puncher" Sturm
Pirog at his worst
(Similar to Sergio )
Golovkin not interested in Saunders or Andrade fights
https://www.boxing news24. com/2019/05/golovkin-not-interested-in-saunders-or-andrade-fights/
"Gennady Golovkin has no interest in fighting newly crowned WBO 168-pound champion Billy Joe Saunders or WBO middleweight belt holder Demetrius Andrade right now. Former middleweight champion GGG says those fighters need to get in line and wait if they want to fight him, because his focus is on his next opponent Steve Rolls."
Regarding Ward
Ward says he won’t fight Golovkin at 168
(bnews24 site site)
“I’m not going to 68, that’s out,” said Ward to thaboxingvoice.com about him not moving down to 168 to fight Golovkin. “I moved up. That was a real opportunity for him to take that fight. He didn’t want the fight. He wanted to push it out 2 or 3 years. Once you go up, you can’t come back down. If he wants to come up, that’s another story. I’m not going back down,” said Ward.
Canelo Álvarez vs. Gennady Golovkin
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canelo...vkin#:~:text=F ollowing%20Canelo%20%C3%81lvarez%27s%20victory%20a gainst%20Miguel%20Cotto,anticipated%20to%20take%20 place%20well%20into%202016.
The age gap was goinG to be there regardless
10 Guys GGG Did Not Fight & WHY
https://tss.ib.tv/boxing/featured-bo...ot-fight-a-why
Everything Nelo did GGG could have.....but didn't
GGG fought a total of 240 rds in 45 fights
At age 34 Nelo has clocked in over 500 rds.
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You're so predictable. That's why i made a point for you to follow the conversationn but I knew you have no answer.They all sucks, this is the millennial and X generation where the fans are in love with theirs boxers, is more like a cult not a sport and as long as their idols doesn't face a threat, they're great. Go away kid and learn a little there's life outside the fraud.Comment
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Martinez - 38 and damaged when GGG wanted to fight
Pirog - Same only younger
Sturm - Makes Haney look like Mike Tyson
Ward - How many hoops did GGG throw at him ?
Froch - He wanted Carl to move down
Nelo - Had they fought any sooner, their purses would have been half'd. They were at their most profitable when they fought. GGG was too lazy to chase greatness.
"Don't worry, guys. I'm moving back down to defend my titles !''
Never to be heard from again
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