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  • #11
    Originally posted by daggum View Post

    even when kovalev was beating up and outboxing ward, ward managed to make it relatively boring with his illegal wrestling tactics. oh sorry i mean inside fighting
    Not sure how people can glorify his fouls like low blows, headbutting, elbowing and agressive clinching by calling it strategy/skill just because he remained undefeated on paper.

    The judges overlooked it in because he is fighting his opposition in his home territory with him being a Olympic Golden Medalist from USA. If it were anyone else they have been disqualified.
    Last edited by Malvado; 10-07-2024, 02:27 PM.
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    • #12
      Originally posted by J.C. Superstar View Post

      Not sure how people can glorify his fouls like low blows, headbutting, elbowing and agressive clinching by calling it strategy/skill just because he remained undefeated on paper.

      The judges overlooked it in because he is fighting his opposition in his home territory with him being a Olympic Golden Medalist from USA. If it were anyone else they have been disqualified.
      the funny thing is he does illegal tactics because of his lack of boxing skills. if you watch him fight bums like paul smith he doesnt do any of that nonsense. when someone is testing him, or better than him out come the illegal tactics. you could even see this as far back as the olympics. in one of his fights hes doing his normal boxing and then he gets completely rocked and spends the rest of the fight wrestling. this is why he refused to join the super 6 unless all his fights were home fights. he knew he could take advantage of his american privilege and he did.

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      • #13
        Ward for me. Bivol could change my mind on Saturday though.

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        • #14
          I think Beterbiev would have beat Kovalev.

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          • #15
            Originally posted by daggum View Post

            joe smith wobbled and hurt bivol
            How come i dont really remember that

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            • #16
              Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT View Post
              Ward for me. Bivol could change my mind on Saturday though.
              one of Bivol's sparring partners in the training camp for Alvarez mentioned Biv's fav boxers

              Sugar Leonard
              Roy Jonez
              Floyd
              Andre Ward


              Originally posted by El_Mero View Post

              How come i dont really remember that
              Smith Jr hurt Biv twice with overhands

              about a minute into the 4th round and the infamous shot at ending bell of the 10th round

              I would say Biv legs were zapped but not wobbled

              wobble is worse spaghetti legs
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              • #17
                Originally posted by SouthpawRight View Post
                one of Bivol's sparring partners in the training camp for Alvarez mentioned Biv's fav boxers

                Sugar Leonard
                Roy Jonez
                Floyd
                Andre Ward


                Smith Jr hurt Biv twice with overhands

                about a minute into the 4th round and the infamous shot at ending bell of the 10th round

                I would say Biv legs were zapped but not wobbled

                wobble is worse spaghetti legs
                Just rewatched the highlights....yup he got popped a few times. Smith is a big puncher. Makes me alter my prediction for the fight. Still have bivol pulling it iut but theres gonna be some hairy moments for sure, especially if Beter is 100%

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by El_Mero View Post

                  Just rewatched the highlights....yup he got popped a few times. Smith is a big puncher. Makes me alter my prediction for the fight. Still have bivol pulling it iut but theres gonna be some hairy moments for sure, especially if Beter is 100%
                  Bet has knockouts because he’s the top finisher and breaks them down with his heavy hands

                  Tiger Paw Bet

                  I’m not sure if Bet’s one punch power is harder than Smith Jr

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by SouthpawRight View Post
                    Bet has knockouts because he’s the top finisher and breaks them down with his heavy hands

                    Tiger Paw Bet

                    I’m not sure if Bet’s one punch power is harder than Smith Jr
                    Gonna be fun while it lasts. May the best man win

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                    • #20
                      Ward was a bad fighter, using illegal technics all the time, that was because of his lack of boxing skills. A very dirty fighter. It is a crime comparing Bivol with him.

                      Low blows, cllinching, headbutts, elbows..That was ward˙s "boxing".

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