Are P4P rankings complete works of fiction?

[Spray_resistant]

Again, I totally disagree. They will still have all those same phyiscal attributes and advantages in a P4P sense. Its still the same guy. Thats what people dont understand. Its like people keep thinking that you have to strip the guy down. You dont. Its still the same guy.

Now, if you want to say that its still not real then you can say that but thats a totally different argument. My response to that is that everything is hypothetical if you look at it that way. You cant just single out P4P. You can say the same thing about a Clottey vs Mosley fight. They are the same exact weight but have never fought so its all hypothetical. You can say that about any 2 guys in history who have never fought eachother. Thats all hypothetical too. Thats my point.

People are trying to single P4P out and saying that it doesnt mean anything or doesnt make sense because its all hypothetical and all opinion based but my point is that everything is hypothetical & opinioned based if the 2 guys have never fought eachother, even if they are the same exact size. You feel me? I just dont see whats so hard about it and I dont see why people act like it means nothing. To me its very legit, atleast everything besides HW. I mean, its nothing for me to picture a guy like Sweet Pea fighting at SMW against a guy like Froch. Froch would be taller & stronger but Sweet Pea is the superior boxer & far more skilled. He would win that fight at SMW or at LW.

Well I am going to have to disagree with you about the seriousness or legitimacy of the p4p rankings because it is much more based in fantasy rather than reality but will agree with you on your points about fantasy fights which could and may actually happened but have not yet.....it is all fantasy and can be fun to talk about but I can never have a serious discussion again about something so subjective and dependent on imagination. Talks of possible fights that have not happened yet are fantasy too like Mosley/Clottey or even Cotto/Pac but can produce more legitimate meaningful discussion because of the realistic possibilities as in SSM/Clottey and the reality we are inevitably going to experience with Cotto/Pac.

[kayjay]

I mean the best fighters in the world can't be scaled down and if they could they would be totally different fighters and would not have the attributes which made them successful, but this is what p4p rankings are based on when you deconstruct the basis behind it. So should p4p rankings not be discussed or given thought with any degree of seriousness because they are complete works of fiction not based in reality?

Yes. They are ******, as are the people who discuss them.

[raabd]

Yes, they're all opinion.

[baracuda]

yes...same as the atg list....

[Spray_resistant]

Bump because, yup they are still ****** and I have no idea why they even exist.....war on made up p4p rankings because I only care about fights that happen in this little place called reality.

[daggum]

Bump because, yup they are still ****** and I have no idea why they even exist.....war on made up p4p rankings because I only care about fights that happen in this little place called reality.

i agree they are complete crap. they make it possible for ducks like mayweather to avoid fighting the best in his division cause he can claim to be "p4p" the best.

[Spray_resistant]

i agree they are complete crap. they make it possible for ducks like mayweather to avoid fighting the best in his division cause he can claim to be "p4p" the best.

Like being ranked p4p #2 is an actual title, when Mosley was the real champ @ 147 but gets little recognition because Floyd and Pac are ranked higher than him and have titles in the imaginary land where you win your belts by enough ppl thinking you would.

[S.G.]

weight rankings are only slightly less subjective than P4P rankings these days... especially alphabet title rankings