Comments Thread For: That time Victor Ortiz entered the ring without knowing his opponent

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I do not disagree at all. Ortiz lost all three rounds. Perhaps I should have contextualized my point - Ortiz was aggressive from the get go. There was no sizing up or measuring Floyd. He came to fight and didn’t seem unsettled by Floyd.

He was going to get KO’d even if the headbutt didn’t happen.

Compare that to say Mosley, Guerrero, Berto etc they all seemed to fight in reverence to Floyd.

Bruh Mosley is the one guy who almost KO’d Floyd twice in the second round and came at him like Floyd slept with his mother.

He absolutely did not fight in reverence of Floyd. Floyd made an adjustment after getting hurt and beat Mosley to a pulp.

Guerrero didn’t fight in reverence of Floyd either, he was just outclassed.

Floyd was in the form of his life that year. That’s the year he also schooled Canelo.

His speed, reflexes, agility, timing, movement, physical strength, everything was on point for Floyd that year. Guerrero stood no chance

He and his dad had a game plan and their game plan was to punch with Floyd.

it’s a tactic that usually works against fast twitch, athletic fighters. You time their attack and punch with em (timing beats speed is a famous boxing analogy after all).

The problem was that Floyd doesn’t just have speed but has elite timing too , the best actually. So their plan was doomed to fail. It also failed because I believe they underestimated the magnitude of Floyd’s speed advantage.

Robert Guerrero was allegedly fast when he was coming up and when he fought in the lower weight classes, has the name “Ghost”, he was so fast people said it was like fighting a ghost.

He didn’t realise how much he got slower after jumping up weight classes and he didn’t realize that there are levels to this ish.

Also, I would argue that Ortiz was far more in reverence of Floyd than any of Floyd’s opponents.

If he wasn’t, he wouldn’t have tried to hug Floyd five times during a fight, after the ref already called for the fight to resume.

That is something someone in reverence of you would do, or someone scared of you.

[Oregonian]

Bruh Mosley is the one guy who almost KO’d Floyd twice in the second round and came at him like Floyd slept with his mother.

He absolutely did not fight in reverence of Floyd. Floyd made an adjustment after getting hurt and beat Mosley to a pulp.

Guerrero didn’t fight in reverence of Floyd either, he was just outclassed.

Floyd was in the form of his life that year. That’s the year he also schooled Canelo.

His speed, reflexes, agility, timing, movement, physical strength, everything was on point for Floyd that year. Guerrero stood no chance

He and his dad had a game plan and their game plan was to punch with Floyd.

it’s a tactic that usually works against fast twitch, athletic fighters. You time their attack and punch with em (timing beats speed is a famous boxing analogy after all).

The problem was that Floyd doesn’t just have speed but has elite timing too , the best actually. So their plan was doomed to fail. It also failed because I believe they underestimated the magnitude of Floyd’s speed advantage.

Robert Guerrero was allegedly fast when he was coming up and when he fought in the lower weight classes, has the name “Ghost”, he was so fast people said it was like fighting a ghost.

He didn’t realise how much he got slower after jumping up weight classes and he didn’t realize that there are levels to this ish.

Also, I would argue that Ortiz was far more in reverence of Floyd than any of Floyd’s opponents.

If he wasn’t, he wouldn’t have tried to hug Floyd five times during a fight, after the ref already called for the fight to resume.

That is something someone in reverence of you would do, or someone scared of you.

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Great response. Can’t argue with anything you said. I stand corrected.

I will say one thing though. The Mosley fight will always be remembered for the TWO punches Mosley landed in a 12 round fight. That’s about it. Mosley appeared to have an epileptic episode just bouncing around. I can never forget how Naazim Richardson made him repeat his instructions.