Comments Thread For: Careful What You Wish For: Oleksandr Usyk and ill-advised rematches

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  • Cash in
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    #21
    Originally posted by Poopdick

    no it couldn't. there was 1 winner and 1 loser. knockdown decided the fight. only a moron had Fury "edging it" lol. Fury did great in that fight. came up just a little short. we need stop with the nonsense. more often than not, there is a true winner. and there should be judges in place that can understand what they are seeing and focus enough to give the win to the right man. and I ain't getting into if Usyk was low blown or not. but you should atleast understand, a knockdown isn't a knockout. wild jump there, surprised there's alot of ppl who miss that step..
    He was down for about 5 minutes. Had zero chance of beating a 10 count. Cash in - His Excellency

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    • Oregonian
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      #22
      Originally posted by landotter

      Maybe why he should pursue it? It is a chance to even out a demerit on his career report card. Why not take the easy extra credit?

      I have been an Usyk cheerleader since the Cruiserweight Super Series. But I sincerely hope that if he wins the rematch with Fury (still a challenging and big "if"), he takes an easy touch fight close to home than retires. He has earned an easy payday, and his home country would send him off as the sports icon he has earned. Why keep going? The only outcome is one of these HW who are STILL tons bigger than him connects something ugly and that becomes more and more likely as 40 closes in on him. Call it a career as an undefeated first ballot Hall of Fame all time great.

      IF he beats Fury...... I mean he should, but dang Fury is big.....
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      Truer words have never been spoken.

      Usyk is not driven by money so I think if he beats Fury, he might retire but obviously the idea of unifying AGAIN would be enticing so I’m expecting him to fight Dubois.

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        #23
        Originally posted by Smash
        well if usyk beats fury again & AJ is off the table now completely then dubois could be a good rematch option for usyk but more based on his recent form than any low blow controversy
        No low blow. Usyk was not reacting well to the body shots in that matchup. He went down on a belt line shot and the video is there for everyone to see.

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          #24
          Originally posted by SteveM

          Both Wilder and Zhang have obvious defects as fighters. Parker smartly eposed those defects. He gets beaten by Bakole and Kabayel.
          Parker is no easy out for anyone. Still a Top 5 heavyweight. I don't see a line to fight Emporer Zhang.

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            #25
            Originally posted by megas30

            No low blow. Usyk was not reacting well to the body shots in that matchup. He went down on a belt line shot and the video is there for everyone to see.
            from what i remember it looked a bit low to me

            look at below pic & notice this, on the pic u can see that usyks shorts are hiked up showing the punch has landed with some of the glove below the line, if the ref saw this he had no choice but to call a low blow & with usyk being in poland where he is the A side it was without doubt going to be called low

            olexandr-usyk-vs-daniel-dubois_1scsfuw3hj52n1vnffsxdl7od0.jpg?t=956245002&w=800.jpg

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              #26
              Originally posted by SteveM
              Bakole has the best chance to beat him
              If he is to be believed, Bakole destroyed Dubois in sparring multiple times to the point where Daniel's team will no longer go anywhere near him. Is it true? I think it is highly likely.

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                #27
                Originally posted by Smash

                from what i remember it looked a bit low to me

                look at below pic & notice this, on the pic u can see that usyks shorts are hiked up showing the punch has landed with some of the glove below the line, if the ref saw this he had no choice but to call a low blow & with usyk being in poland where he is the A side it was without doubt going to be called low

                olexandr-usyk-vs-daniel-dubois_1scsfuw3hj52n1vnffsxdl7od0.jpg?t=956245002&w=800.jpg
                Yes, I think it was low. It's below elbow by a bit. The bottom of elbow should protect belly button
                Last edited by hugh grant; 09-25-2024, 06:24 PM.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Smash

                  from what i remember it looked a bit low to me

                  look at below pic & notice this, on the pic u can see that usyks shorts are hiked up showing the punch has landed with some of the glove below the line, if the ref saw this he had no choice but to call a low blow & with usyk being in poland where he is the A side it was without doubt going to be called low

                  olexandr-usyk-vs-daniel-dubois_1scsfuw3hj52n1vnffsxdl7od0.jpg?t=956245002&w=800.jpg
                  If that's a low blow then I have seen many hundreds of similar blows during my time watching boxing that were not called foul.

                  The fact that Usyk's shorts are hiked up higher would mean the blow is landing higher on his torso - if the ref was aware that his shorts were hiked up then the ref should have allowed such a blow.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Cash in

                    He was down for about 5 minutes. Had zero chance of beating a 10 count. Cash in - His Excellency
                    because ref immediately called it a low blow lol

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by SteveM

                      If that's a low blow then I have seen many hundreds of similar blows during my time watching boxing that were not called foul.

                      The fact that Usyk's shorts are hiked up higher would mean the blow is landing higher on his torso - if the ref was aware that his shorts were hiked up then the ref should have allowed such a blow.
                      when i said 'hiked up' i meant u could see the lower part of usyks shorts being hiked up as the punch has landed at this point, i remember when it happened people were saying that was not the correct shot to look at as maybe it hadnt landed at that point but the fact that usyks shorts lower down are affected means the shot has landed i would say

                      whether this is 'low' or not is another debate of course, i cant remember what the ref said during instructions about what is low or not, that would need to be rewatched by someone and reported, im too lazy to do it of course

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