Comments Thread For: Former heavyweight LaRon Mitchell likes Anthony Joshua over Daniel Dubois

[Boro]

Now you are trolling. Hrgovic has never even beaten anyone who was in the top-10 at the time. And seems to excel at being a punch bag when he gets in against top fighters. All he really did against Zhang and Dubois was absorb punches well. Where is his boxing ability?

Joshua provably has the the most consistent record of fighting top-10 fighters out of all the HWs. Although I suppose you could make a strong case for Usyk even with the less fights. Joshua could never have got away with fighting guys outside the top-40 like Fury did with Swartz and Pianeta or a guy from a completely different sport like Ngannou!

How does Dubois have a better record than Joshua?

If you want to cry on about Joshuas resume and how good it is you can't say that using "ratings" and then moan about Hrgovic and Schwarz.

He was ranked #2 with the WBO you know similar to trash like Takam and Brezeale who people (Eddie in particular) used to have a big ole song and dance about how credible they are.

And certainly not using Pianeta as an example of bad opposition he was a come back fight after 3 years out and he went into the Wilder fight just months later, something the guys who nuts are resting on your chin is still yet to do.

[Roberto Vasquez]

If you want to cry on about Joshuas resume and how good it is you can't say that using "ratings" and then moan about Hrgovic and Schwarz.

He was ranked #2 with the WBO you know similar to trash like Takam and Brezeale who people (Eddie in particular) used to have a big ole song and dance about how credible they are.

And certainly not using Pianeta as an example of bad opposition he was a come back fight after 3 years out and he went into the Wilder fight just months later, something the guys who nuts are resting on your chin is still yet to do.

Fury has only beaten 2 top-10 fighters in 9 years ---> Wilder and Whyte but somehow Joshua is bad. Yeah sure....

No one uses Boxing organisation rankings for good reason. Why would you use those??

Takam was a good fighter. Around no. 12-13 when Joshua fought him. Breazeale is a heavy punch bag but he was ranked in the top-20 at least. But if you look at Fury you have Wallin (27th at the time), Pianeta (70+ at the time) and Scrawz (40+ at the time). Joshua fought Wallin when he was 11th in the world.

[Boro]

Fury has only beaten 2 top-10 fighters in 9 years ---> Wilder and Whyte but somehow Joshua is bad. Yeah sure....

No one uses Boxing organisation rankings for good reason. Why would you use those??

Takam was a good fighter. Around no. 12-13 when Joshua fought him. Breazeale is a heavy punch bag but he was ranked in the top-20 at least. But if you look at Fury you have Wallin (27th at the time), Pianeta (70+ at the time) and Scrawz (40+ at the time). Joshua fought Wallin when he was 11th in the world.

Where did I say Joshua was bad you ret@rd?

And you pathetic biases are hilarious, like I said Pianeta was part of his comeback you know 3 fights including wilder in less then 6 months after 3 years out, like I said above the guy your deepthroating still wouldn't have the cojones to attempt even now.

Wallin was ranked in the top 10 in multiple sanctioning bodies and I've already explained Schwarz.

Wallin being ranked 11th on whatever arbitrary site you're using doesn't prove anything, he got that rating based solely on cutting Fury and using it to market him.

He certainly didn't get it from his losing effort to Sokolowski and the other puddings he faced before Joshua.

And the only reason you're rating Whyte is because AJ fought him.

Otherwise you'll have to concede Hgorvic is a good win for Daniel and better then anything Joshua has had in 6+ years because Pulev certainly wasn't deserving of his ranking if Hrgovic isn't.

P.S. has Joshua even been an underdog in any of his fights unlike Fury who's been an underdog in all of his major fights or close to even odds...

[Roberto Vasquez]

Where did I say Joshua was bad you ret@rd?

And you pathetic biases are hilarious, like I said Pianeta was part of his comeback you know 3 fights including wilder in less then 6 months after 3 years out, like I said above the guy your deepthroating still wouldn't have the cojones to attempt even now.

Wallin was ranked in the top 10 in multiple sanctioning bodies and I've already explained Schwarz.

Wallin being ranked 11th on whatever arbitrary site you're using doesn't prove anything, he got that rating based solely on cutting Fury and using it to market him.

He certainly didn't get it from his losing effort to Sokolowski and the other puddings he faced before Joshua.

And the only reason you're rating Whyte is because AJ fought him.

Otherwise you'll have to concede Hgorvic is a good win for Daniel and better then anything Joshua has had in 6+ years because Pulev certainly wasn't deserving of his ranking if Hrgovic isn't.

P.S. has Joshua even been an underdog in any of his fights unlike Fury who's been an underdog in all of his major fights or close to even odds...

I never said Hrgovic wasn't a good win for Daniel. I like Dubois. My whole point is that AJ consistently fights better fighters than anyone else.

Why are you talking about organization rankings? - basically anyone can be in the top-10 by that measure.. Once you start talking about dumb stuff like that - it's pointless. Which fighters had Wallin beaten to make him top-10 in the world at that time? Please answer this question. I need a good laugh.

Why do you think Fury chose Wallin? lol. He didn't choose a no-name guy because he thought it would be a hard fight. If you want a hard-fight - you chose someone good! - otherwise you look bad

Whyte was ranked in top-5 in Ring ranking for ages. He actually beat some people.... including Parker. And was only the 2nd person ever to stop Povetkin (after losing to him first time round)

Fury has only had 2 major fights in the last 9 years. Was he an underdog in them? I don't think he was in teh Uysk fight. People saw it as 50/50. But what relevance is being an underdog? We know Fury ducked Joshua 3 times. He should have manned up. Only Saudi money is making it possible now. Don't forget Fury ran from Uysk too - until Dubois put Uysk down and made Usyk look beatable

[Boro]

I never said Hrgovic wasn't a good win for Daniel. I like Dubois. My whole point is that AJ consistently fights better fighters than anyone else.

Why are you talking about organization rankings? - basically anyone can be in the top-10 by that measure.. Once you start talking about dumb stuff like that - it's pointless. Which fighters had Wallin beaten to make him top-10 in the world at that time? Please answer this question. I need a good laugh.

Why do you think Fury chose Wallin? lol. He didn't choose a no-name guy because he thought it would be a hard fight. If you want a hard-fight - you chose someone good! - otherwise you look bad

Whyte was ranked in top-5 in Ring ranking for ages. He actually beat some people.... including Parker. And was only the 2nd person ever to stop Povetkin (after losing to him first time round)

Fury has only had 2 major fights in the last 9 years. Was he an underdog in them? I don't think he was in teh Uysk fight. People saw it as 50/50. But what relevance is being an underdog? We know Fury ducked Joshua 3 times. He should have manned up. Only Saudi money is making it possible now. Don't forget Fury ran from Uysk too - until Dubois put Uysk down and made Usyk look beatable

Which fighter had Joshua beaten to get his ranking in the top 10 to fight Martin? which fighter did Povetkin beat to get his rating same with Pulev I could continue....

It's absolutely laughable you're trying to dismiss sanctioning bodies (the only way fighters can force a shot) but praise AJ for beating people who are rated like Pulev who was on a run of Hughie fury and Rydel Booker? or Povetkin with his run of David Price and Christian Hammer after his ban?

You're just being biased because it's a way to prop up the guy you're deepthroating and dismiss Fury at the same time, it's embarrassing the lengths you'll go to downplay Fury.

Whyte has beat Nobody he was gifted the Parker win because that ret@rd Ian-John Lewis counted a headbutt as a KD and allowed him to hold on the ropes for 3 hours after he was badly hurt in the 12th.

Fury has only had 2 major fights in 9 years? WTF are you talking about everything single Wilder fight was "major", Wlad, Whyte, Usyk, Chisora and even that embarrassment of allowing Ngannou to compete in boxing full stop was "major", so behave yourself.

Fury hasn't ran from anyone he faced Usyk, Wlad and Wilder and will likely face AJ.

And it's hilarious how you're claiming he ran from Usyk but neglect to mention how Usyk signed with Matchroom with the sole intent of fighting AJ.

And as a undisputed/WBO champion had the privilege of immediately challenging him just like Crawford did with Horn or Inoue and Fulton but AJ avoided him for as long as possible but that wouldn't fit your narrative would it.

[Roberto Vasquez]

Which fighter had Joshua beaten to get his ranking in the top 10 to fight Martin? which fighter did Povetkin beat to get his rating same with Pulev I could continue....

It's absolutely laughable you're trying to dismiss sanctioning bodies (the only way fighters can force a shot) but praise AJ for beating people who are rated like Pulev who was on a run of Hughie fury and Rydel Booker? or Povetkin with his run of David Price and Christian Hammer after his ban?

You're just being biased because it's a way to prop up the guy you're deepthroating and dismiss Fury at the same time, it's embarrassing the lengths you'll go to downplay Fury.

Whyte has beat Nobody he was gifted the Parker win because that ret@rd Ian-John Lewis counted a headbutt as a KD and allowed him to hold on the ropes for 3 hours after he was badly hurt in the 12th.

Fury has only had 2 major fights in 9 years? WTF are you talking about everything single Wilder fight was "major", Wlad, Whyte, Usyk, Chisora and even that embarrassment of allowing Ngannou to compete in boxing full stop was "major", so behave yourself.

Fury hasn't ran from anyone he faced Usyk, Wlad and Wilder and will likely face AJ.

And it's hilarious how you're claiming he ran from Usyk but neglect to mention how Usyk signed with Matchroom with the sole intent of fighting AJ.

And as a undisputed/WBO champion had the privilege of immediately challenging him just like Crawford did with Horn or Inoue and Fulton but AJ avoided him for as long as possible but that wouldn't fit your narrative would it.

Who said Joshua was in the top-10 when he fought Martin? He probably would have got the fight by fighting a couple of bums in the sanctioning bodies list.

The reason I don't like Fury is because I used to be a fan. But he betrayed me (he betrayed us!). You just seem to want to bend over while he takes your money and lies about everything. I actually praised him after his Uysk defeat - rather than laughing at him for a loss. He finally stepped up. Losses don't matter if you are taking hard fights. Fury also took PEDs while accusing everyone else of taking them. Why would you be a fan of that?

We might get that Fury Vs AJ fight now though.... Fury won't be scared anymore just like how he took the Usyk fight after Dubois hurt him

We all remember the twitter debacle with Usyk when Fury offered Usyk a laughably low percentage because he thought USyk wouldn't accept. I can't even be bothered to go through it with you....

BTW did you see the Fury interviews before the AJ fight? He seemed pretty messed up. Looked it too. Looked old as well. Still thinks Usyk won 3-4 rounds in their fight. Will be interesting to see if he can get it together before the fight

Watch how AJ takes a loss - no excuses, praises opponent and plans to work on his faults. It was the same with Ruiz. Everyone else wanted to make excuses for AJ after Ruiz loss, he didn't

I said Fury has only won 2 major fights in last 9 years - Whyte and Wilder (the only top-10 opponents has has beaten in that time).

And please remind me when Fury fought Povetkin and Pulev? - Fury fought no great fighters form his own era - other than an old Wlad. Why is that?

[Boro]

Who said Joshua was in the top-10 when he fought Martin? He probably would have got the fight by fighting a couple of bums in the sanctioning bodies list.

The reason I don't like Fury is because I used to be a fan. But he betrayed me (he betrayed us!). You just seem to want to bend over while he takes your money and lies about everything. I actually praised him after his Uysk defeat - rather than laughing at him for a loss. He finally stepped up. Losses don't matter if you are taking hard fights. Fury also took PEDs while accusing everyone else of taking them. Why would you be a fan of that?

We might get that Fury Vs AJ fight now though.... Fury won't be scared anymore just like how he took the Usyk fight after Dubois hurt him

We all remember the twitter debacle with Usyk when Fury offered Usyk a laughably low percentage because he thought USyk wouldn't accept. I can't even be bothered to go through it with you....

BTW did you see the Fury interviews before the AJ fight? He seemed pretty messed up. Looked it too. Looked old as well. Still thinks Usyk won 3-4 rounds in their fight. Will be interesting to see if he can get it together before the fight

Watch how AJ takes a loss - no excuses, praises opponent and plans to work on his faults. It was the same with Ruiz. Everyone else wanted to make excuses for AJ after Ruiz loss, he didn't

I said Fury has only won 2 major fights in last 9 years - Whyte and Wilder (the only top-10 opponents has has beaten in that time).

And please remind me when Fury fought Povetkin and Pulev? - Fury fought no great fighters form his own era - other than an old Wlad. Why is that?

"Fury finally stepped up" you're having a laugh mate, he's stepped up multiple times like I said he was underdog in every major fight he's had and in the 1st Wilder it was in his backyard same with the Wlad fight...

AJ has only been an underdog in rematches after being trounced otherwise he's odd on favorite and even that's a dubious claim because I still think he was favorite despite his trouncing.

"AJ takes a loss and has no excuses", talk about delusion and bias. He literally throw a paddy in the rematch with Usyk and moaned on about not being "15 stone and shít" and he allowed his mouthpiece Eddie make all sorts of excuses for the Ruiz loss which is as good as making them himself.

"We all remember the debacle when Fury offered x" convenient how you forget both Krassyuk and Klimas both admitting they didn't even attempt to negotiate with Fury before or after the Dubois fight, what a coincidence you remember everything Fury allegedly does wrong but nothing anyone else does.

As for AJ fight top ranked opponents who has he faced either in his 8 years since he got a belt?

• Parker who was nullified by the ref.
• Povetkin who shouldn't of even been ranked because he not long before popped for meldonium.
• Wlad who was practically retired so shouldn't of been ranked, Fury was removed from every rating in a few months after the Wlad fight yet for some reason Wlad was still ranked
• The only actual legit top 10 he beat was Pulev so i wouldn't rave about his resume pal especially not by using the nonsensical ratings, Pulev reentered the rings top 10 after beating Rydell Booker FFS...

Fury obviously fought and beat Wilder, Wlad and Whyte, so if they applied rules equally like removing people from rankings as they did Fury, Wlad wouldn't of been ranked, Povetkin wouldn't of because he popped dirty (The ring does have panels to vote on removing fighters who pop) they'd have a similar if not identical resume.

And as for him fighting Pulev and Povetkin you do realize he tried to right? just like he did with Wilder all them years ago and Wilder decided to go the WBC route instead.

Wilder ducked both Fury and Chisora at the time and Ruiz even dropped out of the running to become the mandatory.

Fury was ranked #4 at the time they were trying to establish a mandatory for Wlad and no one would fight Chisora apart from Fury.

Despite the fact both Wilder and Ruiz both are technically more experienced fighters both are Olympians and have equal or more fights under their belts at the time...

[Roberto Vasquez]

"Fury finally stepped up" you're having a laugh mate, he's stepped up multiple times like I said he was underdog in every major fight he's had and in the 1st Wilder it was in his backyard same with the Wlad fight...

AJ has only been an underdog in rematches after being trounced otherwise he's odd on favorite and even that's a dubious claim because I still think he was favorite despite his trouncing.

"AJ takes a loss and has no excuses", talk about delusion and bias. He literally throw a paddy in the rematch with Usyk and moaned on about not being "15 stone and shít" and he allowed his mouthpiece Eddie make all sorts of excuses for the Ruiz loss which is as good as making them himself.

"We all remember the debacle when Fury offered x" convenient how you forget both Krassyuk and Klimas both admitting they didn't even attempt to negotiate with Fury before or after the Dubois fight, what a coincidence you remember everything Fury allegedly does wrong but nothing anyone else does.

As for AJ fight top ranked opponents who has he faced either in his 8 years since he got a belt?

• Parker who was nullified by the ref.
• Povetkin who shouldn't of even been ranked because he not long before popped for meldonium.
• Wlad who was practically retired so shouldn't of been ranked, Fury was removed from every rating in a few months after the Wlad fight yet for some reason Wlad was still ranked
• The only actual legit top 10 he beat was Pulev so i wouldn't rave about his resume pal especially not by using the nonsensical ratings, Pulev reentered the rings top 10 after beating Rydell Booker FFS...

Fury obviously fought and beat Wilder, Wlad and Whyte, so if they applied rules equally like removing people from rankings as they did Fury, Wlad wouldn't of been ranked, Povetkin wouldn't of because he popped dirty (The ring does have panels to vote on removing fighters who pop) they'd have a similar if not identical resume.

And as for him fighting Pulev and Povetkin you do realize he tried to right? just like he did with Wilder all them years ago and Wilder decided to go the WBC route instead.

Wilder ducked both Fury and Chisora at the time and Ruiz even dropped out of the running to become the mandatory.

Fury was ranked #4 at the time they were trying to establish a mandatory for Wlad and no one would fight Chisora apart from Fury.

Despite the fact both Wilder and Ruiz both are technically more experienced fighters both are Olympians and have equal or more fights under their belts at the time...

What you did for AJ's record you should do for Fury's record - then I would give you more credibility. But Apparently Wallin was a top-10 fighter when Fury fought him (Actually 25+) and Schrwaz (I forgot your excuse for him but he was outside the top 40). Were you also the guy who made excuses for Fury's PED use? Sorry if that wasn't you.

There was no one else out there for AJ to fight (until recently) - apart from Wilder and Fury - who both ducked AJ. Fury was offered a fight in Jan 2019 but turned it down because he didn't want to give Aj a higher split than him (even though AJ had 3 belts and Fury had none). Wilder ducked AJ to fight Fury.

In Fury's biography he says "if ever a boxer was made for me it's Derek Chisora". Then he fought him again haha

Like I said elsewhere, it's rabid fans like you who enable Fury. If only Fury had fought the same level of opposition as AJ had in the last 9 years. Aj has even fought Dubois now too and will no doubt fight him again

I guarantee Tyson "I will never fight Anthony Joshua" Fury will agree to fight AJ now, Aj looked so bad in this last fight. But Fury needs to remember how bad he struggled with another big guy in Ngannou in his first ever boxing match.... Styles make fights.

[Boro]

What you did for AJ's record you should do for Fury's record - then I would give you more credibility. But Apparently Wallin was a top-10 fighter when Fury fought him (Actually 25+) and Schrwaz (I forgot your excuse for him but he was outside the top 40). Were you also the guy who made excuses for Fury's PED use? Sorry if that wasn't you.

There was no one else out there for AJ to fight (until recently) - apart from Wilder and Fury - who both ducked AJ. Fury was offered a fight in Jan 2019 but turned it down because he didn't want to give Aj a higher split than him (even though AJ had 3 belts and Fury had none). Wilder ducked AJ to fight Fury.

In Fury's biography he says "if ever a boxer was made for me it's Derek Chisora". Then he fought him again haha

Like I said elsewhere, it's rabid fans like you who enable Fury. If only Fury had fought the same level of opposition as AJ had in the last 9 years. Aj has even fought Dubois now too and will no doubt fight him again

I guarantee Tyson "I will never fight Anthony Joshua" Fury will agree to fight AJ now, Aj looked so bad in this last fight. But Fury needs to remember how bad he struggled with another big guy in Ngannou in his first ever boxing match.... Styles make fights.

Why would I do anything with Furys record, you imbecile I said he's fought Wlad, Whyte and Wilder since his first belt, you're the one making assertions about his record.

And I'm not even picking apart his record, I'm just proving the asinine nature of using rankings particularly those of non-sanctioning bodies because of such things as Fury being removed after a couple of months of not fighting but Wlad was still ranked after 18 months of not having fought conveniently for AJ.

Povetkin being removed from numerous sanctioning bodies for popping for PEDs but stays in the rankings with "The ring" and "TBRB"

I didn't say they were ranked "top 10" you buffoon, I said they ranked in the sanctioning bodies top 10, Wallin was #10 in the IBF and Schwarz was #2 in the WBO these are indisputable facts.

And the irony is when Breazeale, Takam, Molina etc etc were just ranked in sanctioning bodies people like you accepted them as good wins for AJ but it's completely unacceptable for the same to be true for Fury, that's why people like you are a complete joke to me.

You're morally inconsistent and just cape for man who won't pay you any mind.

You can say both Wilder and Fury ducked AJ but let's be real here Fury has fought everyone he's expected to apart from AJ and Barry and Eddie said they were comfortable never seeing AJ fight Wilder so behave yourself.

The irony in you having the audacity to call anyone a "rabid fan" shouldn't be lost on anyone seeing these posts.

[Roberto Vasquez]

Why would I do anything with Furys record, you imbecile I said he's fought Wlad, Whyte and Wilder since his first belt, you're the one making assertions about his record.

And I'm not even picking apart his record, I'm just proving the asinine nature of using rankings particularly those of non-sanctioning bodies because of such things as Fury being removed after a couple of months of not fighting but Wlad was still ranked after 18 months of not having fought conveniently for AJ.

Povetkin being removed from numerous sanctioning bodies for popping for PEDs but stays in the rankings with "The ring" and "TBRB"

I didn't say they were ranked "top 10" you buffoon, I said they ranked in the sanctioning bodies top 10, Wallin was #10 in the IBF and Schwarz was #2 in the WBO these are indisputable facts.

And the irony is when Breazeale, Takam, Molina etc etc were just ranked in sanctioning bodies people like you accepted them as good wins for AJ but it's completely unacceptable for the same to be true for Fury, that's why people like you are a complete joke to me.

You're morally inconsistent and just cape for man who won't pay you any mind.

You can say both Wilder and Fury ducked AJ but let's be real here Fury has fought everyone he's expected to apart from AJ and Barry and Eddie said they were comfortable never seeing AJ fight Wilder so behave yourself.

The irony in you having the audacity to call anyone a "rabid fan" shouldn't be lost on anyone seeing these posts.

Rabid fan? I have never given any of of my money to AJ. I like him because he fights people and doesn't duck them. Which is proved by his record. You just blindly supported a guy who was unbeaten but who was scared of taking any actual hard fights.

Fury said (jokingly) after AJ/Dubois fight "That **** has just cos me $150 million". Well you know - you should have taken the fight the other 3 times it was offered to you. Being a p@ssy also loses you money.

No other HW of similar quality to Fury at that time could have got away with fighting Wallin and Schwarz.